Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

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Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by Dili » 21 Jul 2019 00:51

I know that British employed Wellingtons for magnetic mine detonation. Nevertheless i don't know Allied efforts with ships, while the Italians converted several merchants building apparent complex installations in them for that propose. Was the allied equipment towed or they just did not felt the need for ship based anti magnetic mine combat?

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by OpanaPointer » 21 Jul 2019 01:59

Hyperwar has some books on minewarfare. Not sure if your topic is covered.
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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by Orwell1984 » 21 Jul 2019 03:34

Charles Goodeve was the leading scientific mind of the anti-magnetic mine campaign on the Allied side.

See here:

https://www.goodeveca.net/CFGoodeve/magmine.html

https://www.goodeveca.net/CFGoodeve/cfg ... ml#degauss (countermeasures described)

See here also for description of the Algerine Class minesweeper and how it dealt with magentic mines
http://www.minesweepers.org.uk/sweeping.htm

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by Dili » 21 Jul 2019 12:48

Thanks, Opana, Orwell1984.

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by DrG » 21 Jul 2019 14:42

Just to provide a general picture of the scenario, I provide some data about the Italian use of magnetic mines in the Mediterranean.
The Regia Marina employed German-made magnetic and magneto-acoustic mines during WW2, starting in 1941. The total delivered by the Germans was 2,266 mines of these types until August 1943. Given that the Regia Marina laid 49,796 mines, and assuming that all the magnetic ones had been used, they represented 4.55% of the total. I don't know if and how much the Germans employed magnetic mines in the Mediterranean.

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by Dili » 21 Jul 2019 17:26

Hello DrG thanks.

Wellingtons with magnetic ring were employed in Suez in earlier 1941

Below links also talks about Italian air dropped mines in Suez Channel but i doubt it wasn't the Germans instead. I am not aware of Italian air dropped mines - except the 500 OR timer bomb.

http://www.armouredcarriers.com/hms-for ... pan-tiger/

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by DrG » 21 Jul 2019 18:18

The mines mentioned in the link that you have provided were dropped by German bombers in march 1941 and, as far as I know, only the Luftwaffe dropped mines in the Suez Canal during WW2.

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Re: Anti magnetic mine war effort by Allies?

Post by Dili » 22 Jul 2019 04:46

That is my take too.

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Post by Urmel » 22 Jul 2019 18:22

Ships were also degaussed. HMS Abdiel was sunk in Taranto harbour when her gear was switched off.
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