Jugoslavia?

Discussions on WW2 in Africa & the Mediterranean. Hosted by Andy H
User avatar
Superfinnish
Member
Posts: 18
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:48
Location: Sweden,Europea

Jugoslavia?

Post by Superfinnish » 30 Jul 2003 22:02

What happened whit Jugoslavia in ww2?
What parts where ockupied by wich country?

//Martin

User avatar
K.Kocjancic
Member
Posts: 6740
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 19:57
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia

Post by K.Kocjancic » 30 Jul 2003 22:08

Slovenia was occupied by Germany (central N region - Gorenjska, Štajerska), Italy (central S region, all beneath river Sava - Dolenjska, Bela Krajina) and Hungary (E part of Slovenia - Prekmurje).

User avatar
pennywise
Member
Posts: 12
Joined: 25 Jul 2003 01:17
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria

Post by pennywise » 31 Jul 2003 00:19

Bulgaria has occupied Macedonia, thinking that this is a cultural and historical part of Bulgaria

User avatar
Superfinnish
Member
Posts: 18
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:48
Location: Sweden,Europea

Post by Superfinnish » 31 Jul 2003 06:44

What about Montenegro and Kosovo?

viriato
Member
Posts: 717
Joined: 21 Apr 2002 13:23
Location: Porto,Portugal

Post by viriato » 31 Jul 2003 22:30

Montenegro - occupied by Italy

Kosovo- occupied in great part by Italy through Albania; small part (SE)occupied by Bulgaria; another small part (in the north) remained within Serbia

User avatar
Windward
Financial supporter
Posts: 1810
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:41
Location: Pechinum

Post by Windward » 02 Aug 2003 14:44

This map may help you.

regards

jasen
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Superfinnish
Member
Posts: 18
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:48
Location: Sweden,Europea

Post by Superfinnish » 05 Aug 2003 09:50

Thank you :D
Quit much did Italy get but ,why das it read at Montenegro Indepent Kingdom under Italy control?
//Martin

User avatar
Windward
Financial supporter
Posts: 1810
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:41
Location: Pechinum

Post by Windward » 05 Aug 2003 10:57

Well, for the note on the map, Montenegro was a kingdom under Italian control since Jul 12, 1941. But on other resources I read that Michael I, former king and leader of Montenegro royal family, refused an offer of the throne of Montenegro by king Vittorio Emanuele III of Italy (husband of his aunt Elena), and became a prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp during World War II. (http://gsteinbe.intrasun.tcnj.edu/royal ... enegro.htm) And on July 13th, the next day after the puppet kingdom established, Montenegro people raised a great uprising against occupation forces. I guess that's why the nominal independent Montenegro had not a king since then, even a puppet king. There was a Italian-sponsored puppet government from 1941 to 1943 and actually ruled by Italian governor Principe Alessandro Pirzio Biroli.

Image
Flag 1880 - 1881, Jul 1941 - Nov 1944

Image
1881 - 29 Nov 1918 State Flag

User avatar
Miki
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: 26 Apr 2003 17:07
Location: Split,Croatia

Post by Miki » 08 Aug 2003 19:20

Map showes a Croatia as independent kingdom under axis occupation.
during the WWII Croatia was independent state not a kingdom,and how can somebody could be independent if it was under occupation?

regards,
Miki

User avatar
Benoit Douville
Financial supporter
Posts: 3184
Joined: 11 Mar 2002 01:13
Location: Montréal

Post by Benoit Douville » 09 Aug 2003 01:23

The day that the Germans entered Zagreb, Croatia was prodaimed an independent state of the kingdom of Yugoslavia and Ante Pavelich was prodaimed the leader. Almost the same situation happened in Slovakia with Josef Tiso the leader.

Regards
Last edited by Benoit Douville on 10 Aug 2003 00:12, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Windward
Financial supporter
Posts: 1810
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 14:41
Location: Pechinum

Post by Windward » 09 Aug 2003 04:56

It's a kingdom de jure. Italian Prince Aimone di Savoy, Duke of Spoleto became King Tomislav II of Croatia on May 18, 1941, and abdicated in 1943 after the Italian surrender. Then part of Croatia was occupied by Germany. Other parts liberated by Tito.

User avatar
Miki
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: 26 Apr 2003 17:07
Location: Split,Croatia

Post by Miki » 09 Aug 2003 18:24

Windward wrote:It's a kingdom de jure. Italian Prince Aimone di Savoy, Duke of Spoleto became King Tomislav II of Croatia on May 18, 1941, and abdicated in 1943 after the Italian surrender. Then part of Croatia was occupied by Germany. Other parts liberated by Tito.
Germany did not occupied Croatia in real sense of that word.After fall of Italy Croatia took back land that was given to Italy,and all territory that Italian hold before surrender was taken by German and Croatian army.
Partisans liberated some part of Croatia,but soon they lost major part when axis force arrive.

User avatar
DrG
Member
Posts: 1408
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 22:23
Location: Italia

Post by DrG » 24 Oct 2003 17:06

This is a map from an Italian atlas of 1943:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by DrG on 24 Oct 2003 17:15, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
DrG
Member
Posts: 1408
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 22:23
Location: Italia

Post by DrG » 24 Oct 2003 17:06

In this map of the Historic Office of General Staff of Italian Army is shown the line (it's called "demarcazione italo-tedesca"; it's this line: +++) between the Italian and the German occupation zones in Croatia (of course it was a member of the Tripartite, this occupation was mostly to fight communist partizans): http://www.geocities.com/ga57/albania/map6.html.

User avatar
DrG
Member
Posts: 1408
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 22:23
Location: Italia

Post by DrG » 24 Oct 2003 17:29

The areas of Dalmatia annexed by Italy (18-May-1941) and the province of Zara (already Italian) became part of the Governatorato di Dalmazia, divided into 3 provinces: Zara (enlarged), Spalato (new) and Cattaro (new).

The part of Slovenia and N-W Croatia annexed on 3 May 1941 was divided between the province of Fiume and the new province of Lubiana (both were part, along with Gorizia, Trieste and Pola, of the region Venezia Giulia). See map:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Return to “WW2 in Africa & the Mediterranean”