War in Slovenia 6.4. - 14.4.1941
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War in Slovenia 6.4. - 14.4.1941
I'm starting a new thread, dedicated to first phase of WWII in Slovenia - German-Italian-Hungarian attack on Yugoslavia and with this also on Slovenia.
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First I would like to just list units, which were involved in fighting from 6.4. to 14.4.'41 on territory of Slovenia.
German units:
a) 2. Armee with:
- 46. Mot.Korps (attacked from Hungary),
- 49. Gebirgs-Armeekorps (1. Geb., 79. Inf. and 538. Grenze-Div.),
- 51. Armeekorps (132. and 183. Inf.Div.) and
- 52. Armeekorps (125. Inf. and 100. Light-Div.)
- reserve: 169. and 197. Inf.Div.
b) Luftflotte 4
c) reserve (never used):
- 4., 12. and 19. Pz.Div.
- 20. Mot.Div. and
- 100. Leicht-Div.
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First I would like to just list units, which were involved in fighting from 6.4. to 14.4.'41 on territory of Slovenia.
German units:
a) 2. Armee with:
- 46. Mot.Korps (attacked from Hungary),
- 49. Gebirgs-Armeekorps (1. Geb., 79. Inf. and 538. Grenze-Div.),
- 51. Armeekorps (132. and 183. Inf.Div.) and
- 52. Armeekorps (125. Inf. and 100. Light-Div.)
- reserve: 169. and 197. Inf.Div.
b) Luftflotte 4
c) reserve (never used):
- 4., 12. and 19. Pz.Div.
- 20. Mot.Div. and
- 100. Leicht-Div.
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Italian units:
a) 2. Army with:
- 3. Alpine Detachment,
- 11. Corps (Div. "Re" and "Isonzo"),
- 6. Corps (Inf.Div. "Ravenna", "Sassari", "Assiette" and "Friuli"),
- 5. Corps (Inf.Div. "Bergamo" and "Lombardia"),
b) reserve:
- Mot.Corps (Mot.Div. "Torino" and "Passubio"
- Armoured-Div. "Littorio",
- 1. Fast-Corps (1., 2. and 3. Fast-Div.)
a) 2. Army with:
- 3. Alpine Detachment,
- 11. Corps (Div. "Re" and "Isonzo"),
- 6. Corps (Inf.Div. "Ravenna", "Sassari", "Assiette" and "Friuli"),
- 5. Corps (Inf.Div. "Bergamo" and "Lombardia"),
b) reserve:
- Mot.Corps (Mot.Div. "Torino" and "Passubio"
- Armoured-Div. "Littorio",
- 1. Fast-Corps (1., 2. and 3. Fast-Div.)
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Hungarian units:
-unknown??
Did Hungarian Army even participated in attack? Or just occupatied its territory after the capitulation?
-unknown??
Did Hungarian Army even participated in attack? Or just occupatied its territory after the capitulation?
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Yugoslav army's units:
a) 1. Army-Group with:
- 4. Army (Detachment "Ormož")
- 7. Army ("Dravska" Div., "Ljubljanska" Div., "Triglav" Alpine Detachment)
- 4 (four) Fort-Rgt. (on border with Third Reich)
- independant Btl. (?) (on border with Third Reich)
- 4 (four) Art.Detachments (on border with Third Reich)
- 4 (four) Fort-Rgt. (on border with Italy)
- 2 independant Btl.s (?) (on border with Italy)
- 4 (four) Art.Detachments (on border with Italy)
Altogether there were:
- 13 Rgt.s (7 Fort, 4 Inf., 1 Mout. and Reserve-Rgt.),
- 1 independent Detachment,
- 5 Fort-Art.Detachments,
- 1 MG-Btl. +
- Border-Guards
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If you know any other units (Axis or Yugoslav), that were present in Slovenia at that time, please post the info.
a) 1. Army-Group with:
- 4. Army (Detachment "Ormož")
- 7. Army ("Dravska" Div., "Ljubljanska" Div., "Triglav" Alpine Detachment)
- 4 (four) Fort-Rgt. (on border with Third Reich)
- independant Btl. (?) (on border with Third Reich)
- 4 (four) Art.Detachments (on border with Third Reich)
- 4 (four) Fort-Rgt. (on border with Italy)
- 2 independant Btl.s (?) (on border with Italy)
- 4 (four) Art.Detachments (on border with Italy)
Altogether there were:
- 13 Rgt.s (7 Fort, 4 Inf., 1 Mout. and Reserve-Rgt.),
- 1 independent Detachment,
- 5 Fort-Art.Detachments,
- 1 MG-Btl. +
- Border-Guards
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If you know any other units (Axis or Yugoslav), that were present in Slovenia at that time, please post the info.
The Royal Hungarian Army crossed into Yugoslavia between the Danube and the Tisza at 1400 on 11.04.1941. The Yugoslav "Potiska" Div. had left only token forces in the Bacska area so there was no large scale fightings between the two forces. The Hungarians occupied the whole Bacska area by 14.04.1941.Kocjo wrote:Hungarian units:
-unknown??
Did Hungarian Army even participated in attack? Or just occupatied its territory after the capitulation?
Royal Hungarian Army units involved:
THIRD ARMY (Gen. vitez Gorondy Novak)
-Mobile Corps (Gen. Miklos)
---1st Motorized Brigade
---2nd Motorized Brigade
---2nd Cavalry Brigade
-I Corps (Gen. Decleva)
---1st Infantry Brigade
---2nd Infantry Brigade
---3rd Infantry Brigade
-IV Corps (Gen. vitez Horvath)
---10th Infantry Brigade
---11th Infantry Brigade
---12th Infantry Brigade
-V Corps (Gen. vitez Feketehalmy-Czeydner)
---13th Infantry Brigade
---14th Infantry Brigade
---15th Infantry Brigade
-VII Corps (Gen. vitez Nagy)
---19th Infantry Brigade
---20th Infantry Brigade
---21st Infantry Brigade
-1st Parachute Battalion (Lt.Col. vitez Bertalan)
-Elements of the River Flotilla
Of the above troops, the I Corps and VII Corps did not see any action.
Hungarian casualties: KIA: officers 7, men 113; WIA: men 223; MIA: officer 2, men 11. total: 346.
Source: Niehorster: The Royal Hungarian Army, 1920-1945.
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Hi Kocio
the complete italian OOB could be seen at:
http://www.comandosupremo.com/Yugoslavia.html
Anyway Slovenia was target for XI Corps
bye
Lupo
the complete italian OOB could be seen at:
http://www.comandosupremo.com/Yugoslavia.html
Anyway Slovenia was target for XI Corps
bye
Lupo
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That is correct. Hungary did not have territorial claim against Slovenia.Kocjo wrote:Orok, so if I understand correctly - Hungarian army didn't participated in attack on SLovenia (Backa region is not in Slovenia ).
Hungary had a non-agression treaty with Yugoslavia, so the Hungarian Army only entered Yugoslav territory after Croat declared independence. So "officially" Hungary was not at war with Yugoslav, but with the Serbian government.
The Hungarians refused to advance further into Yugoslavia after it had occupied only half of the territory it considered having a claim. Hitler put a lot of pressure on Admiral Horthy but to no avail. This is but the first of many times the Hungarians would irritate the Germans by their reluctance to cooperate!
Don't forget that the Hungarian prime minister count Pal Teleki committed suicide to protest the immence German pressure on Hungary to assist in the invasion. He was the first Hungarian casualty of the conflict!
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Yes Kocjo, I forgot Muravidék and Muraköz! These were occupied at the same time but by some units of the border guards and civilian police units peacefully. No regular army units were involved.Kocjo wrote:But part of Slovenia (Prekmurje) were occupied by Hungary.
So it might be an oversimplification to say that Hungary did not have a claim against Slovenia.
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Orok wrote:
I know that at the time of the German invasion at the beginning of April 1941, there was an autonomous Banovina of Croatia, established in 1939 under the sporazum. The Banovina was self-governing, and was subject to the Yugoslav Government only for foreign affairs and defence purposes.
The Banovina included not only historical Croatia-Slavonia and Dalmatia, but also large parts of Bosnia and the Vojvodina, in fact all areas with an ethnic Croat population. The Ban of Croatia was Ivan Subasic, a Croat who had served in the Serbian army during the First World War, and was acceptable to the Royal Yugoslav Government. After the German invasion, Subasic went into exile with the king, but then switched his allegiance to Tito.
Was it that the government of the Banovina was taken over by the Ustasha, which arrived with the Italian army, and independence then declared, or did the Banovina of Croatia declare its independence even before being taken over by the Ustasha?
Do you have any details of how the Croat declaration of independence came about?Hungary had a non-agression treaty with Yugoslavia, so the Hungarian Army only entered Yugoslav territory after Croat declared independence.
I know that at the time of the German invasion at the beginning of April 1941, there was an autonomous Banovina of Croatia, established in 1939 under the sporazum. The Banovina was self-governing, and was subject to the Yugoslav Government only for foreign affairs and defence purposes.
The Banovina included not only historical Croatia-Slavonia and Dalmatia, but also large parts of Bosnia and the Vojvodina, in fact all areas with an ethnic Croat population. The Ban of Croatia was Ivan Subasic, a Croat who had served in the Serbian army during the First World War, and was acceptable to the Royal Yugoslav Government. After the German invasion, Subasic went into exile with the king, but then switched his allegiance to Tito.
Was it that the government of the Banovina was taken over by the Ustasha, which arrived with the Italian army, and independence then declared, or did the Banovina of Croatia declare its independence even before being taken over by the Ustasha?
Croatian declaration of independance came from Ustashas lead bymichael mills wrote: Do you have any details of how the Croat declaration of independence came about?
I know that at the time of the German invasion at the beginning of April 1941, there was an autonomous Banovina of Croatia, established in 1939 under the sporazum. The Banovina was self-governing, and was subject to the Yugoslav Government only for foreign affairs and defence purposes.
The Banovina included not only historical Croatia-Slavonia and Dalmatia, but also large parts of Bosnia and the Vojvodina, in fact all areas with an ethnic Croat population. The Ban of Croatia was Ivan Subasic, a Croat who had served in the Serbian army during the First World War, and was acceptable to the Royal Yugoslav Government. After the German invasion, Subasic went into exile with the king, but then switched his allegiance to Tito.
Was it that the government of the Banovina was taken over by the Ustasha, which arrived with the Italian army, and independence then declared, or did the Banovina of Croatia declare its independence even before being taken over by the Ustasha?
Ante Pavelic. In the 10.04. 1941. Pavelic deputy Slavko Kvaternik, in the name of the Poglavnik Pavelic proclaimed the Independent State of Croatia in its entire historical area. That include Banovina Croatia[Ustasha regime give up of some regions to Hungary (Medjimurje and Baranja) and Italy (Istria, Rijeka, most of the islands and Dalmatian coast)]and whole Bosnia.
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