What's the name of the African theater?

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What's the name of the African theater?

Post by Volklin » 12 May 2004 21:56

ETO= Europe
PTO= Pacific

Is Africa, ATO?

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Post by Sturmmann_Fritz » 12 May 2004 22:13

I believe so

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Post by Xavier » 12 May 2004 22:16

mediterranean theatre I think was called officially
(it encompassed all mediterranean coast)

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Post by Luftman129 » 12 May 2004 23:39

Xavier wrote:mediterranean theatre I think was called officially
(it encompassed all mediterranean coast)

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Post by Volklin » 13 May 2004 07:18

So N.Africa is considered Mediterranean?

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Post by Jon G. » 14 May 2004 23:22

The British called North Africa the 'Western Desert', a misnomer that only makes sense if you sit in Cairo and refer to Palestine, the Transjordan and Iraq as the 'Eastern Desert'. Only the Western Desert name stuck.

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Post by Dwight Pruitt » 07 Jun 2004 21:20

Originally it was NATO- North African Theater of Operations. As of 1 Nov 44 it was changed to MTO-Mediterranean Theater of Operations.

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Post by baldviking » 08 Jun 2004 04:15

The allies use of the phrase "theater" in this context, meaning command level above army group and front, was very new to me, me never having read any WW2 history in english. I thought Stavka invented this, by having South West, Nort West and East theaters of war during WW2, their western front beeing too big and different in nature to have one top level command...

Do any members of the forum know when this phrase came into military use and what nation invented it?

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Post by Dwight Pruitt » 08 Jun 2004 07:02

Webster's says the word theater was first used in the military sense in Great Britain around 1890.

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Post by RichTO90 » 08 Jun 2004 14:04

Dwight Pruitt wrote:Originally it was NATO- North African Theater of Operations. As of 1 Nov 44 it was changed to MTO-Mediterranean Theater of Operations.
Yep, and the US forces in North Africa was NATOUSA - North African Theater of Operations United States Army (later MTOUSA). Which resulted in a rather amusing exchange I ran across between two British First Army officers, the one carefully explaining to the other that 'Natousa' was not a town somewhere in Tunisia that he was unable to find, but was rather a US military postal address. :D

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Post by Michael Emrys » 16 Jan 2005 04:17

baldviking wrote:The allies use of the phrase "theater" in this context, meaning command level above army group and front, was very new to me, me never having read any WW2 history in english. I thought Stavka invented this, by having South West, Nort West and East theaters of war during WW2, their western front beeing too big and different in nature to have one top level command...

Do any members of the forum know when this phrase came into military use and what nation invented it?
Only the Soviets used the term 'Front' to refer to a grouping of armies. Everybody else used the term 'Army Group', but the two terms are equivalent.

And the Soviets did have a single top-level command: Stavka. Or you could take it further and say that supreme command resided in the person of Stalin.

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Post by Volklin » 20 Jan 2005 02:32

what'd the afrika korps refer to the region in which they were fighting?

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Post by Christoph Awender » 20 Jan 2005 02:36

Volklin wrote:what'd the afrika korps refer to the region in which they were fighting?
The german OKH and OKW reports used the terms "Nordafrika, italienisch Ostafrika, Libyen, Cyrenaika" to name a few examples.

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Post by Montys Foxhounds » 21 Jan 2005 21:21

For the British at least, the fighting zone of North Africa was known as the Western Desert, however, on all Rolls of Honour for KIA`s it always stated and still does in many cases "Middle East" .

The soldiers name for the fighting zone was the "Blue"


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