Pictures from Yugoslavia 1941-1945: take a look!

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 27 Jan 2018 16:20

G. Trifkovic wrote:Next set of photos comes from Piekalkiewicz,"Krieg auf dem Balkan 1940-1945",Muenchen 1985. Photos are realy interesting, but captions are a catastrophe! [...]

SD detail with dogs on the Vucevo plateau,mid-1943. (?)

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As I already mentioned to dear Gaius, the more I research the photo captions from Piekalkiewicz's book (Krieg auf dem Balkan 1940-1945), the more I have a feeling that the man was simply making things up. The photo was not taken on the Vučevo plateau in 1943.

It's interesting that the same photo also appears on the cover of "Das Massaker von Sant’Anna di Stazzema" (Heinecke/Kohl/Westermann) although it was not taken in or near Sant’Anna di Stazzema either.

If you take a look at Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 733 (21.09.1944), you will see a burning village and the same SD NCO (on the left, resting his arm on his weapon) at the end of the report on the fighting in the "Italian border region" (as the narrator called the location). Also filmed in the same report was Andrej Noc (not pictured here), a member of the Veldes (Bled) Aussenstelle in Upper Carniola (which suggests that the region in question was Upper Carniola or a nearby area). I'm sure that a more specific location can be found with just a bit more research (I didn't have the time to deal with it yet unfortunately). (We have already started discussing the newsreel in question over a decade ago here https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... 50&t=89100)

Comparison with a Wochenschau screenshot:
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 30 Jan 2018 13:14

Ivan Ž. wrote:If you take a look at Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 733 (21.09.1944), you will see a burning village and the same SD NCO (on the left, resting his arm on his weapon) at the end of the report on the fighting in the "Italian border region" (as the narrator called the location).
Here's the full report (the SD NCO appears at 1:55):


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Post by Ivan Ž. » 30 Jan 2018 14:42

These two photos, posted by Gaius on page 3 of this thread and by myself in the "118. Jäger-Division (gallery)" topic, were misidentified as photos from Sutjeska 1943 in the books we copied them from. Both are actually screenshots from the same (above mentioned) 1944 newsreel report.
G. Trifkovic wrote:7. SS - Sutjeska

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Ivan Ž. wrote:Scout of Kampfgruppe "Gertler" in the Sutjeska canyon (May 1943)

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Wochenschau screenshots:
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Post by Mark V. » 01 Feb 2018 22:13

Hi Ivan,

The armoured train sequence was taken near Jesenice, on the railroad between Jesenice and Moste. As for the mountain fighting, its difficult to say but it was probably also taken in this part of the Karawanken mountains. This area definitely has some of the features from the video, but I'm still looking for the exact location and date. Also Andrej Noc was was a member of the Aussenstelle Assling/Jesenice.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Feb 2018 22:16

Thanks very much for the info, Marko! Looking forward for more :thumbsup:

Perhaps you already know this (if not, maybe the info might be helpful to you), some of the photos with Noc (and Druschke), likely from the same action, can be found in the BA under the number 101I-679-8163... (PK Gallian).

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Post by Mark V. » 02 Feb 2018 01:09

Thanks Ivan! I've only seen a few of them.

This is more likely on the Pokljuka plateau, Planina Klek. 2 young partisan messengers were killed there on 25.8.1944. Bodies of two young boys can also be seen on the couple of pictures.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Feb 2018 02:42

Hello, Marko, that most certainly looks like the same area! And there are also some old house's remains in the link you posted. (Perhaps of a once burnt house?) Very interesting, very interesting indeed, dear Marko! :D Thanks one more time, any further info/suggestion is always welcome!

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Post by Mark V. » 02 Feb 2018 16:54

For comparison a few more photos of the main cottage on the Planina Klek:

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https://phaidra.cab.unipd.it/detail_obj ... oll=o:6942

Pre war: front side
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http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/110308/

back side:
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https://www.kamra.si/it/collezioni-digi ... -klek.html

Post war restoration: front side
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https://www.kamra.si/it/collezioni-digi ... -klek.html
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 02 Feb 2018 18:04

Marko - you are the man :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot for the links, especially the first one, which was completely unknown to me! Great job.

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Post by tigre » 24 Dec 2018 01:22

Hello to all :D; more...........................

Operation 25 - April 1941. POWs.

Sources: https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlerobje ... 98906.html
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