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Not He 115s.

Post by Ron Klages » 04 Feb 2006 07:40

Fangio,

By August 1942 the He 115s were only with 1 unit--1./Kü.Fl.Gr. 406-- that continued operating in the Artic with 12 of them. By 10 May 1944 the unit only had 10. There were no He 115s in the med in 1943-1945 with any unit that I am aware of.

When looking at German float planes there were only the Ar 196. Ju 52 and He 115, therefore if the picture is showing German equipment, then they are Ar 196s or Ju 52s or both in the picture.

With regards to Italian equipment, possible but I have no way to check that out since my resources are only of German equipment and units.

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Post by FANGIO » 07 Feb 2006 19:05

Ron,

I agree with you, Ar 196s or Ju 52s. It can't be the CANT Z 511 because it had two motors in each wing. If we take a closer look to the pic I posted (not a great quality pic for sure) we can see only one motor in one the wings.
It could be the CANT Z 506 but I think there were no hydroplanes of this type over there.
A member from a WWII spanish forum ('wilhelm heidkamp') told me that the only CANT Z 511 the italians had was destroyed just after the italian armistice.

Well, we'll keep on searching...

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Post by Andreas1984 » 18 Apr 2006 18:48

If you understand German I will give the advice to buy the following book:

Waldemar Trojca
"Küstenjägerabteilung Brandenburg"
ISBN: 3925480781

I don't know whether the book is available in English.
Yours sincerely,

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Post by FANGIO » 19 Apr 2006 19:38

Thanks for your input Andreas but sadly I don't understand german (just a few words) :cry:
I appreciate your help anyway.
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Post by Andreas1984 » 20 Apr 2006 14:32

FANGIO wrote:Thanks for your input Andreas but sadly I don't understand german (just a few words) :cry:
I appreciate your help anyway.
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FANGIO
This book is also in English available. Look at: http://www.modelhobby.pl : Send an E-Mail and ask for the book.
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Post by FANGIO » 22 Apr 2006 06:16

Oh!, all right, thanks once again Andreas.
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Post by PT Dockyard » 15 Jul 2006 17:48

Landing craft- The Kuestenjaeger used both Sturmboot42 and Pioneerlandungsboot40 craft in the Leros operation. Some MFPs were present but the Stub and PilB were part of the Kustenjaeger organization. The units in the Aegean later armed these craft for patrol, with the StuB mounting a triple 15mm aft and the PilB mounting a wide assortment of guns- quad 20mm, 37mm AA, 5cm former tank guns and even one with a 3".

They also used the Infantrielandungsboot "I-Lighter"

Also, look at Peter Schenk's book " Kampf un die Aegis". It is relatively cheap ( about 14Euros) on Amazon, LOADS of pictures ( better than the book on the Kuestenjaeger, which I also have, and the German is not too complex.

Dave G.
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Post by FANGIO » 15 Jul 2006 18:19

Many thanks for your help Dave, I really appreciate it. I'll keep in mind that book but if it's in german I'll have some trouble. I only know just a few german words but maybe a dictionary or an online translator will help.
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Post by byron » 10 Dec 2006 13:30

Hi Fangio,

Hier are some informations regarding the operation "Leopard"

Gegen die Inselfestung Leros wurden in der Zeit 26.09.43-11.11.43 984 Flugzeuge eingesetzt.
Der Jagdfliegereinsatz umfasste 161 Flugzeuge.
Folgende Lw-Einheiten wurden eingesetzt:
Eins.Staffel der I./KG 100, 5./KG 100, III. u. IV./JG 27, 11./ZG 26, II./KG 51, 13./St.G. 151, II. u. III./St.G. 3, II./KG 4, Chef-A.W.-Gruppe, 3./LG I. u. III./LG 1 bekämpfte erfolgreich die britische Flotte und bombardierte Landziele.
Sie hatte die totale Luftherrschaft.
Den Transport der Fallschirmjäger übernahmen die Staffeln 2. u. 6./TG 4 und Teile der 1./TG 2.
Es waren noch dabei NaGr 2, 2./SAGr. 125, 1./SAGr. 126 und 2./SAGr. 126
Die 5./KG 100 versenkte am 11. November mit Gleitbomben den Zerstörer “Rockwood” und am 12./13.11.1943 die “Dulverton”.
Am 7. Oktober 1943 nahm Hauptmann Armin Kuhlmann mit seinen Küstenjägern die Insel Kalymnos kampflos.
Der Angriff auf Leros fand am 12. November 1943 statt. Nach sehr harten Kämpfen haben die Inselverteidiger am 17. November 1943 kapituliert. 357 Briten und 408 Deutsche fielen in den schweren Kämpfen. 3.200 Briten und 5.350 Italiener wurden gefangengenommen.

Am 22. November 1943 hat der Kommandeur des Jäger-Regiments 1. Brandenburg, Major Wilhelm Walther, die Insel Samos, nach schwerer Bombardierung und Zerstörung der Kleinstädte Tygani und Vathy, kampflos genommen. Lipsos, Patmos, Fourni und Ikaria wurden am 10. November, Kastelloriso am 27. November 1943 besetzt.

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Ar 196

Post by maxs75 » 12 Dec 2006 13:31

Did some more investigating and there was one unit with float planes stationed on Leros and that was 3./SAGr. 126 with Ar 196 A-3 float planes.
See also:
http://www.ww2.dk/air/seefl/sagr126.htm

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