The 100 Most Important Women in World History

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The 100 Most Important Women in World History

Post by Potsdamerplatz » 05 Aug 2007 18:53

I was thinking the other day just how important women are in the role of history, yet they seldom receive the credit they deserve. I thought it might be fun to compile a list of the Top 100 most important women in world history. Here are 14 to get us started and their contribution and importance to history should need no introduction.

* Cleopatra (69 BC - 30 BC)

* Joan of Arc (1412-1431)

* Queen Isabella I of Spain (1451-1504)

* Queen Elizabeth I of England (1533-1603)

* Mary, Queen of Scots (1542-1587)

* Catherine The Great (1729-1796)

* Marie Antoinette (1755-1793)

* Jane Austen (1775-1817)

* Queen Victoria of England (1819-1901)

* Florence Nightingale (1820-1910)

* Emmeline Pankhurst (1858-1928)

* Marie Curie (1867-1934)

* Eva Peron (1919-1952)

* Margaret Thatcher (1925- )


A list of another 86 choices might be a little harder to compile although I look forward to seeing nominess from other members.

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Post by Eddy Marz » 05 Aug 2007 19:37

Mmm... I have reservations about Marie-Antoinette; she may be extremely famous but wasn't all that important. She was (admitedly not all her fault) an immature pleasure seeker, and probably contributed through her empty-headed behavior to insure hatred from the upcoming 'bourgeois class' which eventually led to pre-revolutionary attitudes, themselves started in the first place by reactionary aristocrats such as the Comte d'Artois; specifically because they had fallen from Marie-Antoinette's favor. She didn't have an ounce of political intelligence or statemanship qualities of any sort. But she was stubborn and courageous - meeting her awful end with dignity.

As for Cleopatra, I'm a little dubious as well. She was Julius Caesar's lover, and then Mark Antony's, and probably his nemesis as well if you consider their "romantic" deaths and the ensuing collapse of the eastern province under Octavian's pressure. Films and books have artificially elevated her to a legendary status, but I think her historical importance is anecdotic, and in no way conveys any idea of Egypt's lost grandeur... She was a conniving "client queen" of greek origin (Ptolemy dynasty), tolerated because, for a short time, she secured roman interests in the province.

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Post by Patras » 05 Aug 2007 20:17

Marie Antoinette 8O Why is this woman important? Between austrian princess, most importan is Maria Theresia (1717 - 1780)

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Post by henryk » 05 Aug 2007 22:17

The Polish "King" Jadwiga (1374-1399), who by her marriage with Jagiello (Jogaila) of Lithuania, in 1385, started the Jagiellonian dynasty. The dynasty lasted until 1572. The combination of Poland and Lithuania lasted until 1795, the Third Partition of Poland. and was a "Great power" of Europe. She was given the title of "king", because at that time a queen was the wife of the male king ruler.

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Post by Potsdamerplatz » 05 Aug 2007 23:40

Here are another few I should have added earlier. All 20th century female politicians who should make any Top 100:

* Golda Meir (1898-1978)

* Indira Gandhi (1917-1984)

* Corazon Aquino (1933- )

* Benazir Bhutto (1953- )

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Post by Kim Sung » 06 Aug 2007 03:21

I'd like to add very important women which were included in the initial post.


Empress Theodora (Θεοδώρα, c.500~548) - The most influential women in the Byzantine Empire

Wu Ze-Tian (武則天, 625~705) - The woman who led the Tang dynasty into chaos

Yang Gui-Fei (楊貴妃, 719~756) - The Asian Symbol of Beauty who brought the heyday of the Tang dynasty to an end

Mary Wollstonecraft (1759~1797) - The Pioneer of Feminism

Empress Myeongseong (명성황후, 1851~1895) - The Empress of Tragedy
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Empress Dowager Cixi (西太后, 1835~1908) - The woman who led the Qing dynasty into collapse

Róża Luksemburg (1871~1919) - The most famous female Martyr of Marxism

Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya (Зоя Космодемьянская, 1923-1941) - The first female Hero of the Soviet Union

Aung San Suu Kyi (ഓ‍ങ്ങ്‌ സാന്‍ സൂചി, 1945~ ) - The most famous female warrior of democracy in Asia

Park Kun-Hye (박근혜, 1952~ ) - The most successful female politician in the modern history of the Confucian Cultural Sphere
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viewtopic.php?p=900027#900027


* From the above list, we can notice that the image of female leaders in Asia has been depicted negatively in most cases.

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Re: The 100 Most Important Women in World History

Post by Musashi » 06 Aug 2007 08:28

Potsdamerplatz wrote:Marie Curie (1867-1934)

Maria Skłodowska. She was a Polish woman, who married a French, Curie.

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Post by Potsdamerplatz » 06 Aug 2007 22:34

Thanks to everyone for your contributions.

I also think Eleanor Roosevelt (1884-1962) deserves a place on the list for her important role in promoting the New Deal and also her advocacy in civil and women's rights in the USA.

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Post by Patras » 07 Aug 2007 07:55

Eleanor Roosevelt (1884-1962


Was she connected with NKVD and the soviet intelligentsia?

Maybe Yes, maybe yes...

http://top100.km.ru/reader.asp?id=32725 ... echars=150

I´ve read Soviet Union had very fast the most secrets information from USA,, (their secret talking, their nuclear programm etc etc)...Soviet had "connected" OSS, CIA (in the future) etc etc..

If you read this...between russian agent might be Eleanor Roostvelt and/or Harry Hopskins.. Who knows?

"Ê íàñòîÿùåìó âðåìåíè åñòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâà, ïóñòü è íå ñàìîãî íàäåæíîãî õàðàêòåðà, î òîì, ÷òî â ÷èñëå àãåíòóðû ìîãëè áûòü æåíà Ïðåçèäåíòà Ýëåîíîðà Ðóçâåëüò è/èëè ëè÷íûé ñåêðåòàðü Ðóçâåëüòà Ëîêëèí Êàððè"

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Post by Kim Sung » 07 Aug 2007 08:49

Patras wrote:"Ê íàñòîÿùåìó âðåìåíè åñòü ñâèäåòåëüñòâà, ïóñòü è íå ñàìîãî íàäåæíîãî õàðàêòåðà, î òîì, ÷òî â ÷èñëå àãåíòóðû ìîãëè áûòü æåíà Ïðåçèäåíòà Ýëåîíîðà Ðóçâåëüò è/èëè ëè÷íûé ñåêðåòàðü Ðóçâåëüòà Ëîêëèí Êàððè"

This sentence shows just an allegation that Eleanor was possibly involved in Soviet espionage. This is not a proven claim yet.

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Post by Patras » 07 Aug 2007 12:10

Hi, Mr Kim Sung

Exactly

allegation that Eleanor was possibly involved in Soviet espionage. This is not a proven claim yet.


It´s because I asked and because I wrote maybe... at any case, NKVD has accessed to someone very very very High in the Roostvelt´s bureau.. maybe Eleanor or maybe Hopskins... or maybe another...

Of course, the Russian Intelligence Service has the archives would prove who was that high spy.. or maybe It was a "group"...Personally I think Eleanor was a NKVD´s member...

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Post by Kim Sung » 10 Aug 2007 06:40

We omitted a very important woman: Helen Keller

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"The public must learn that the blind man is neither a genius nor a freak nor an idiot. He has a mind which can be educated, a hand which can be trained, ambitions which it is right for him to strive to realize, and it is the duty of the public to help him make the best of himself so that he can win light through work."

-- Helen Keller

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/HelenKeller.htm

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Post by Patras » 10 Aug 2007 07:49

And what do you think about this woman?

I think she was Hard like the True, Blind like the justice... and intolerable like the own principles..

Nadezda Konstantinovna Kruskaya

http://www.hrono.ru/biograf/kruskaya.html

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Post by Kim Sung » 10 Aug 2007 08:46

I'd like to include some female warriors who fought for their motherland.

We should not forget Lydia Litvyak (Лидия Литвяк, 1921~1943), the most famous female ace in the military history.

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http://www.rcio.rsu.ru/webp/NFPK/class2 ... liliya.htm
http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=482


And her friend Katya Budanova (Екатерина Буданова, 1916~1943)

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http://photo.peoples.ru/military/hero/e ... a_budanova
http://museum714.narod.ru/Heroes/budanova.html

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