henryk wrote:It should be noted that some Polish researchers believe that
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4206425/territories around Oder and Vistula rivers (in present-day Poland) were continuously inhabited by ancestors of Slavs from the Roman Iron Age (0–400 AD), or perhaps even further back in time from the Bronze Age (3200–600 BC) [7] until the Medieval Age (500–1500 AD) [8].
An interesting Principal Component Analysis (PCA) comparison of autosomal DNA of three ancient people - Late Bronze Age man named RISE 598, Late Bronze Age woman named RISE 595 and Iron Age woman named RISE 596 - with modern populations. RISE 598 man was buried near Turlojiske, very close to modern Lithuanian-Polish border. The two women were buried near Velika Gruda in Montenegro.ManfredV wrote:It is not clear were the slavic people originally came from and if there was a kind of "proto slavic" tribe or if it was a collective term for different groups. We don' t have many original sources from that times and unfortunally esp. in 19th and 20th german, polish and russian/soviet "historians" created their own nationalistic and chauvinistic view and published a lot of nonsense. But usually modern historians believe that there was a emigration of nations in Europe in those times which brought the Slavics west- and southward. A group of tribes /nations with similar culture and language. (...) not all people left the area during european migration movement. Migrants mixed with those who were there before. Modern Poles and other Slav nation like fe. Czechs are mixture of proto-slavic migrants coming in and those others.
History of european nations is much more differentiated than simple explanations.
RISE 598 (who lived ca. years 908-485 BC) was similar to modern Poles (this PCA chart places him within the range of modern Polish samples). Also his Y-DNA was R1a, so the same which is the most common Y-DNA haplogroup of Poles. By contrast, samples from Montenegro - RISE 595 and RISE 596 - are not only significantly different from each other (perhaps suggesting migrations of genetically different peoples in that region between the Bronze Age and the Iron Age), but also both are significantly different from samples of modern Montenegrins:
http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2016/02 ... se598.html
But what was ethnicity and language of that RISE 598 man from ca. 908-485 BC? I suppose that he could be a West Balt.
Linguists usually agree that Baltic and Slavic languages are closely related and originated from a common Proto-Balto-Slavic ancestral language. Most of linguists also consider Slavic languages to be more closely related to West Baltic than to East Baltic languages.
So it would make sense if Northern (Western + Eastern) Slavs are genetically similar to Balts, especially to West Balts.
Note that East Balts (e.g. Lithuanians and Latvians) originally lived far away from the sea - in the Forest Zone of Russia & Belarus.
East Balts migrated towards the Baltic Sea only later, mixing with Baltic Finns (like Estonians) and with West Balts.