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Re: Korean War

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Post by South » 09 Aug 2018, 22:39

Good afternoon Globalization 41,

Concur; US aid to the USSR helped them immensely. Won't say / can't say how immense. It's still a "hot topic".

US aid was NOT based on friendship between Stalin and FDR. The provided aid was for the prosecution of the war - for the account of the US. If the aid to the USSR would not have helped the US strategic position, the event would not have occurred.

Not too sure if Georgetown ever replaced or even got on the charts next to "Wall Street" for the negative propaganda portrayals. Dumbarton Oaks, Georgetown, in August-October 1944, worked up the mechanics for the 1943 Moscow Declaration to get an organization to replace the League of Nations. Georgetown "got on the map" when President JFK got the White House job in 1960.


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RE: The Korean War - (Nutrition For Thought).

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Post by Robert Rojas » 09 Aug 2018, 23:20

Greetings to both brother Globalization41 and the community as a whole. Howdy G41! Well sir, in respect to your posting of Thursday - August 09, 2018 - 7:29am, old yours truly was under the very distinct impression that it was President Franklin Roosevelt that held out the proverbial olive branch to First Secretary Joseph Stalin on November 16, 1933. On that fateful day, after a sixteen year hiatus, the United States of America established full diplomatic relations with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I was also under the very distinct impression that Soviet Union paid quite dearly for the material support provided by the United States of America during the course of the Second World War. As I understand it, Soviet payments made to the United States of America were done so under the guise of GOLD BUILLON. The Soviet Union had substantive gold mining operations along the KOLYMA RIVER in the Siberian Province of Yakutsk which, needles to say, were an integral component of the Gulag Archipelago. And yes, Joseph Stalin did not volunteer to assist either Great Britain or France in the containment of National Socialist Germany. WHY SHOULD HE!? After all, Great Britain, France and National Socialist Germany were all ideological enemies of the Soviet Union. It is true that Joseph Stalin would never cry any elephant tears if Great Britain, France and National Socialist Germany fought it out for perpetuity. Conversely, it is also true that Adolf Hitler would never cry any elephant tears if Great Britain, France and the Soviet Union fought it out for perpetuity - the Winter War of 1940 comes to mind. Beyond that, in the actual context of history of the Second World War, the Soviet Union was subsequently victorious in Eastern Europe and that herculean achievement was successful, in part, due to the acquired material support conveyed to the Soviet Union by both the United States of America and the British Commonwealth. For the time being anyway, I shall refrain from commenting on the post war complexities of the Marshall Plan and its geopolitical impact on Western Europe. Well, that's my latest two cents, pfennigs or kopecks worth on this tangential exercise in the "Korean War" - for now anyway. In any case, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day over in your corner of our "PROSPEROUS DEMOCRACY" that is now purported to be the world's fifth largest economy.

Best Regards From The Greater San Francisco Bay Area,
Uncle Bob :idea: :|
"It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it" - Robert E. Lee


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Re: Korean War

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Post by Globalization41 » 15 Aug 2018, 23:12

Hey guys. … [The Soviet Union had substantive gold mining operations along the KOLYMA RIVER in the Siberian Province of Yakutsk which, needless to say, were an integral component of the Gulag Archipelago.] I heard Stalin volunteered to hold Spain's gold for safekeeping from Franco's fascists. … [...post war complexities of the Marshall Plan and its geopolitical impact on Western Europe.] The complexities of the Marshall Plan were affordable due in part to the fact that the U.S. had not yet begun the mass redistribution of its revenue-generating factories away from America. … [It is true that Joseph Stalin would never cry any elephant tears if Great Britain, France and National Socialist Germany fought it out for perpetuity.] Stalin compared the strategic situation at the time to a game with three opponents. Germany and England at war would weaken each other and the Soviet Union on the sidelines would win. … The Soviets were boycotting the U.N. when the vote for intervention into Korea was taken. The boycott (in progress at the time of North Korea's invasion) was protesting the refusal to admit Red China into the U.N. The Soviet boycott allowed the U.S.S.R. to abstain from vetoing the Korea War intervention. The Korean War was a perfect fit for Stalin's policy of weakening potential rivals. (In theory, the Korean war should have weakened the U.S. Instead, America and South Korea grew stronger. The war effort required a lot of logistics, employing a lot of people. Those people needed transportation, housing, energy, medical care, child care, food, schooling, etc. This created demand, unlike in the Gulag environment.) … In early 1953, Eisenhower became president, Stalin passed away, and a truce was later called in the Korean War. … … At the time of D-Day there were several fronts: the Eastern Front, Italy, France, aerial bombing, supply, and the Pacific. Stalin would have had a much tougher time minus everything but the Eastern Front. … One could say the Pacific Front took away from Europe, but instead the Pearl Harbor raid opened the door for the non-Soviet fronts in Europe.

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