Bundesluftwaffe Tornados In Active In Bombing Targets Yet?

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Bundesluftwaffe Tornados In Active In Bombing Targets Yet?

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 25 Sep 2019 07:04

Gentlemen,

Did the Bundesluftwaffe started active bombing activities by Tornado fighter bombers over Syria or any other war front? It's time for the Bundesluftwaffe to start its share of bombing enemy targets. Scouting and photo taking,that seems the Tornados could do so far. Their pilots must be getting tired of doing that.

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Post by Robert Rojas » 25 Sep 2019 16:18

Greetings to both brother Edward L. Hsiao and the community as a whole. Howdy Edward! Well sir, in light of your introductory posting of Tuesday - September 24, 2019 - 10:04pm, as far as old yours truly knows, the Federal Republic of Germany is not presently involved with ANY ongoing military operations within the territorial boundaries of contemporary Syria. Undoubtedly, the forum's rather extensive German constituency will either corroborate or repudiate my commentary. On the other hand, what does Berlin have to gain by engaging in pointless adventurism in that corner of the world? As it is, Berlin has taken on considerable economic and societal risks with its absorption of Wahabist "refugees" from Syria. Do you recall the ever classic story of THE TROJAN HORSE? It's just some sobering food for thought. Well, that's my initial two Yankee cents worth on this speculative topic of interest - for now anyway. As always, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day up in the ever bucolic coastal community of Waldport, Oregon.

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Re: Bundesluftwaffe Tornados In Active In Bombing Targets Yet?

Post by Ironmachine » 25 Sep 2019 18:29

Robert Rojas wrote:as far as old yours truly knows, the Federal Republic of Germany is not presently involved with ANY ongoing military operations within the territorial boundaries of contemporary Syria.[...] On the other hand, what does Berlin have to gain by engaging in pointless adventurism in that corner of the world
Don't know what they have to gain there, but German Tornados were involved in reconnaissance operations over Syria. And they are still there:
The German government has reached a compromise to extend the Bundeswehr's anti-"Islamic State" mission in Syria and Iraq, according to media reports.
The Christian Democrats (CDU) and Social Democrats (SPD) have been in a tussle over extending the mission's mandate, with the SPD demanding the Bundeswehr end its role.
Germany has four Tornado reconnaissance jets, an AWAC aircraft and an in-flight refueling tanker based in Jordan carrying out missions as part of a US-led international coalition against IS. The Bundeswehr also has a military training mission in Iraq.
According to a text of the CDU-SPD agreement seen by several German media outlets, the Tornados and refueling tanker will be given a mandate to continue operations until March 31, 2020. The mandate was set to expire at the end of October and would normally have been extended by a year.
The Iraqi military training mission and AWAC flights will be extended "no later than October 31, 2020," according to the compromise.
In addition, the number of troops deployed for the mission will be reduced to a maximum of 700 from 800 now.
The cabinet in Berlin is expected to approve the extension on Wednesday. It must then be approved by parliament.
The SPD has opposed extending the military mission in Iraq and Syria, arguing that former Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen had promised parliament to terminate the anti-IS mandate.
Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer and Foreign Minister Heiko Maas wrote to parliamentary group leaders on Monday that Germany will intensify efforts to replace its capabilities with other nations.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-extend ... a-50453084

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Post by Robert Rojas » 25 Sep 2019 19:02

Greetings to both citizen Iron Machine and the community as a whole. Howdy I.M.! Well sir, in respect to your posting of Wednesday - September 25, 2019 - 9:29am, old your truly would like to convey my appreciation for your quite informative contribution to this thread. As it is apparent to all, I was NOT aware of the Federal Republic of Germany's present day involvement in the ongoing Syrian Civil War. And to which national entity is the Luftwaffe relaying its airborne reconnaissance information? Since the Luftwaffe is basing out of the Kingdom of Jordan, I will assume (rightly OR wrongly) that it is the Royal Jordanian AIr Force that is the recipient of this tactical information. Beyond that, I am still wondering how the quite rational Germans got suckered into this transnational enterprise. Well, that's my latest two Yankee cents worth on this topic where TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION - for now anyway. As always, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day over in your corner of the Iberian Peninsula.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 26 Sep 2019 03:46

Well I had read that Bundesluftwaffe aircraft would one of these days be armed with bombs and can bomb enemy targets at will. I read a couple of news articles about the possible go signal of bombing by German Air Forces planes against specific targets.

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Post by Robert Rojas » 26 Sep 2019 05:39

Greetings to both brother Edward L. Hsaio and the community as a whole. Howdy Edward! Well sir, in reference to your latest installment of Wednesday - September 25, 2019 - 6:46pm, DON'T PRAY TOO HARD FOR WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT! Remember, the contemporary Luftwaffe more than proved itself as a credible offensive combat force during the last of the so-called Balkan Wars. It should not be forgotten that a seismic shift in German foreign and military policy will have to transpire BEFORE any of us see the contemporary Luftwaffe fully committed to offensive operations aimed at the enemies of the Alawite regime of Bashar al-Assad. Well, that's my latest two Yankee cents worth on this sojourn down the primrose path to perdition - for now anyway. As always, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day up on the ever bucolic coastal community of Waldport, Oregon.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 27 Sep 2019 07:57

The Luftwaffe is my favorite air force of the world. Its exploits was heavily covered during WWII. Today its seems like it is falling apart but not too much. Its crewmen and pilots are getting bored. Reconnaissance over the battlefield overseas is boring for the pilots in their Tornado aircraft. You are right that I expected too much out of today's Luftwaffe in going on the offensive,dropping bombs and firing missiles against the enemy. Now it not the time yet. But the time will come for the Luftwaffe to take offensive action against the enemy is approaching. What is your favorite air force besides the USAF?

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Post by Robert Rojas » 27 Sep 2019 14:28

Greetings to both brother Edward L. Hsaio and the community as a whole. Howdy Edward! Well sir, in deference to your point OR points-of-view as articulated within your posting of Thursday - September 26, 2019 - 10:57pm, old yours truly is of the belief that you might be doing yourself quite a disservice equivocating the contemporary Luftwaffe of the Social Democratic Federal Republic of Germany with the historical Luftwaffe of the National Socialist Third Reich. I, for one, cannot imagine anyone within today's Luftwaffe having any great desire to be associated with the sociological TAINT of Hermann Göring's institution from yesteryear. THINK ABOUT IT! If anything, I am rather surprised that you have not been the recipient of a great deal of push back from the forum's extensive German constituency on this wholly subjective matter. Now, apart from the airedales of the United States AIr Force / Air National Guard, I would have to strongly lean to the airedales of both the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps as my so-called "FAVORITE" aerial organizations. My only allegiance is to the United States of America. I hope that answers your pointed question. Well, that's my latest two Yankee cents worth on this sojourn down the primrose path to perdition - for now anyway. As always, I would like to bid you an especially copacetic day up in the ever bucolic coastal community of Waldport, Oregon.

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