First Mobile Field Kitchen?

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First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by OldBill » 25 Oct 2020 20:49

Don't ask why this has become such a bug in my brain, I just don't know. But, who made the first mobile field kitchen? When? Two wheeled with a limber, or four wheeled?
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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by RandJS » 28 Oct 2020 02:06

Hi,
From what I've found, The Field Kitchen was invented by Karl Rudolf Fissler in 1892.

https://www.carriageassociationofameric ... sh-cannon/

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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by Loïc » 28 Oct 2020 10:39

The Maréchal de Saxe thought to equip each company in the XVIIIth, there were various plans in several European Armies in the mid/late XIXth century but the Russian Army was the first real major precursor with a first model c.1860 and began to generalise it c.1880, the others Armies following the example early XXth century

There is also the Swedish Army in 1809
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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by OldBill » 31 Oct 2020 16:25

Thank you gentlemen!

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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by James A Pratt III » 31 Oct 2020 20:58

I think the Austrian army adopted one in the early 1800s

Before this I think the British and other armies had large cooking pots that were transported around to cook for the troops.

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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by Sheldrake » 01 Nov 2020 00:27

Cooking pots were the least of a pre C20th army's logistic problems. Stew/goulash cooking on the move is a nice to have. However, most of the C 3,000 calories a day a soldier needed were provided by bread.

The real military innovation was the mobile oven which Frederick the Great had built for his army. Until then armies built brick field ovens. Grain and flour can be stored, but bread needs to be fresh-ish. Bread for 50,000 men will require about 50 tons of milled flour and some big ovens. It took about a day to build and fire with baking only starting 24 hours later. The ability to start baking bread a day earlier than his enemies allowed him to steal a march when he moved.

Not a problem for the C20th as bread or hard tack biscuits are made centrally and shipped by rail.

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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by Sheldrake » 01 Nov 2020 00:27

Cooking pots were the least of a pre C20th army's logistic problems. Stew/goulash cooking on the move is a nice to have. However, most of the C 3,000 calories a day a soldier needed were provided by bread.

The real military innovation was the mobile oven which Frederick the Great had built for his army. Until then armies built brick field ovens. Grain and flour can be stored, but bread needs to be fresh-ish. Bread for 50,000 men will require about 50 tons of milled flour and some big ovens. It took about a day to build and fire with baking only starting 24 hours later. The ability to start baking bread a day earlier than his enemies allowed him to steal a march when he moved.

Not a problem for the C20th as bread or hard tack biscuits are made centrally and shipped by rail.

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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by Hans1906 » 02 Nov 2020 14:16

Good afternoon OldBill,

searching for "Geschichte der Feldküche" shows up a lot of interesting links, one example:

Geschichte der Feldküche: https://www.le-grand-canon.de/geschicht ... ueche.html

Almost "antique" topic in the german "Forum der Wehrmacht" from the year 2007 also very interesting:
Verpflegung der Soldaten https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/inde ... -soldaten/

The german term "Gulaschkanone" is another term to search for...

Guten Appetit! :D


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Re: First Mobile Field Kitchen?

Post by OldBill » 03 Nov 2020 15:35

Hans1906 wrote:
02 Nov 2020 14:16
Good afternoon OldBill,

searching for "Geschichte der Feldküche" shows up a lot of interesting links, one example:

Geschichte der Feldküche: https://www.le-grand-canon.de/geschicht ... ueche.html

Almost "antique" topic in the german "Forum der Wehrmacht" from the year 2007 also very interesting:
Verpflegung der Soldaten https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/inde ... -soldaten/

The german term "Gulaschkanone" is another term to search for...

Guten Appetit! :D


Hans1906
Thank you Hans1906! That is an interesting link, I've enjoyed poking around there!

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