The end of tanks as we know it?

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Armored units with NATO training & equipment, not used yet:

116th Brigade
33rd Brigade
21st Brigade
32nd Brigade
118th Brigade
117th Brigade
82th Brigade

7 NATO trained brigades unused.

47th Brigade has already been used, and it lost Bradleys and Leopard tanks. It was trained by European NATO for half a year, including in Germany and the UK.

"47th Brigade:

99 x M2 Bradley, delivered at the end of March
28 x T-55S (Slovak) in stock 12 x M109 (American 155-mm self-propelled guns) in stock 12 x D-30 (old Soviet towed artillery) in stock"

[Peter89]

In the meanwhile, RBC (Ukraine) claims that the released Hungarian POWs will be used to "criticize Ukraine" and utilized in a "provocative press conference". No such thing has happened so far, and the POWs whereabouts is kept secret.
https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/budut-kriti ... 99594.html

The ethnic identity of the POWs was called into question by various sources, who were most likely either part of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade or the 101st Territorial Defense Brigade, both heavily engaged in combat in Eastern Ukraine.

There are still many ethnic Hungarians fighting on the Ukrainian side, including the former university professor, Sándor Fegyir. He is said to be the next Ukrainian ambassador to Hungary.

https://hvg.hu/itthon/20230327_sandor_f ... apcsolatok

[Michael Kenny]

In the meanwhile, RBC (Ukraine) claims that the released Hungarian POWs will be used to "criticize Ukraine" and utilized in a "provocative press conference". No such thing has happened so far, and the POWs whereabouts is kept secret.
https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/budut-kriti ... 99594.html

The ethnic identity of the POWs was called into question by various sources, who were most likely either part of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade or the 101st Territorial Defense Brigade, both heavily engaged in combat in Eastern Ukraine.

There are still many ethnic Hungarians fighting on the Ukrainian side, including the former university professor, Sándor Fegyir. He is said to be the next Ukrainian ambassador to Hungary.

https://hvg.hu/itthon/20230327_sandor_f ... apcsolatok

I have no idea of what the above is about. Though I can guess it is not clear to those not immersed in the regional politics.

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So far 6-4-6/13, the offensive is still stuck far forward in the 'screening line' and the Russians are performing elastic defense and actively counterattacking. Certain settlements are exchanging hands over and over again.

The only success of this offensive is the killing of Russian general, the chief of staff of 35th Combined-arms army due to a decapitation strike with missiles in the Tomak fortified 'goose egg'.

Essentially the armored breakthrough offensive is being thrust onto approx 1 division worth of Russian troops combined in two areas. The left wing attack has totally failed and the right wing attack is stuck 10 KM away from the first real defense belt.

[Westphalia1812]

So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

[Michael Kenny]

So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

So unlike the predictions made for 'Ukraine's new tanks'.

[Westphalia1812]

So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

So unlike the predictions made for 'Ukraine's new tanks'.

Slava Ukraine

Ja wollt ihr denn den totalen Krieg...

[Westphalia1812]

So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

Only difference being that UAF can't even come close to 1:2

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So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

Like citadel if the Germans were stuck fighting around their starting point, getting blown up before contact, getting their rear blown up...

[Westphalia1812]

So the whole battle is basically like CITADEL?

Like citadel if the Germans were stuck fighting around their starting point, getting blown up before contact, getting their rear blown up...

Yes, but I suppose the Russians don't have the resources to deliver a Kutuzov or Rumyantsev...But I guess that won't even be necessary

[Westphalia1812]

Seems like we're back in 1916

[lartiste]

Russia lost 5 Msta-S all in basically the same farm field.
47.66349, 36.94737
47.66219, 36.94366
47.66105, 36.93501
47.64909, 36.94339
47.64911, 36.94264

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta ... 5012179969

[lartiste]

KREMINNA AXIS /1720 UTC 14 JUN/ RU social media & Telegram sources indicate that UKR HIMARS were used to strike a large unit of Russian troops assembled in the open awaiting review by a senior commander. RU casualties said to exceed 200: 100 KIA and > 100 WIA.

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status ... 6742706180

[Michael Kenny]

KREMINNA AXIS /1720 UTC 14 JUN/ RU social media & Telegram sources indicate that UKR HIMARS were used to strike a large unit of Russian troops assembled in the open awaiting review by a senior commander. RU casualties said to exceed 200: 100 KIA and > 100 WIA.

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status ... 6742706180

In the last 2 days Russian sites are stuffed full of photos of groups of captured and dead Ukrainian soldiers. It is clear the main cause of death is artillery strikes and bullets are the least of a soldiers worries. Both sides appear in a competition to get the most enemy gore on-screen and we should treat claims by either side with the utmost of caution.

Film of soldiers faking death

https://twitter.com/Alex_Oloyede2/statu ... 5748907008


and a Ukrainian tank running over its rescuers

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status ... 4403709953

[Westphalia1812]

It is clear the main cause of death is artillery strikes

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