Since 1917 105 years of western blunders in the Middle east

[ljadw]

Those who talk about Zionism,are secret anti-Semites .
After the death of Stalin, the accusations against the Kremlin doctors were dropped and the regime acknowledged that they were invented .
And Slansky was condemned because he was labeled as Jewish by the anti-Semites .

More opinions from the notes of the law-of-the-instrument aficionado.

How "former Jews" are made anyway? By head amputation? Of course, some Jews condemn Zionism:
Israel Was Born in Sin. I’m Collaborating With a Criminal Country,' Says Former PM’s Son
but that's an entirely different story.

If Yaakov Sharett would live today in the US or Western Europe,he would still be the target of the anti-Semites . He would be save only in Israel or in Putin's Russia .
Former Jews, ex Jews are assimilated Jews who have abandoned all ties with the Jewish world of their ancestors, who are hostile to Israel and the Jewish world, they are anti-Semites .
People as Marx, Soros ( who said that his parents were anti-Semites ), Sanders, Trotsky (who said : I am a Bolshevist, not a Jew ),,....are former Jews .
To deny that Slansky was executed because he was Jewish,is to deny that Stalin was an anti-Semite .

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If Yaakov Sharett would live today in the US or Western Europe,he would still be the target of the anti-Semites . He would be save only in Israel or in Putin's Russia .

Offensive nonsense - the conspiracy theory usually pushed by Israeli chauvinists.
The majority of the Jews live outside Isreal. And post-ww2, the majority of the European Jews emigrated to the West, not to Israel.
The Jews live all over the world in relative safety. The only problem they face is the Israeli racial segregation of its Arab citizens

- As long as an Arab singing the national anthem would have to sing "the Jewish soul yearns," he cannot be equal to Jews;
- as long as Independence Day represents the defeat of the Arabs, he cannot celebrate it;
- as long as a Jew might be prepared to allow an Arab to become a general in the army but not the chief of staff, let alone prime minister, the Arab cannot feel at home;
- as long as the Law of Return applies only to Jews, the Arab cannot feel that the State of Israel is his;
- as long as a Jewish Knesset member does not accept the Arab's right to be a majority here, you are surely holding him in contempt when you try to convince him that he is a citizen with equal rights.
Meir David HaKohen Kahane

and the oppression of the Palestinians living in the occupied territories - because both are held against them.

Former Jews, ex Jews are assimilated Jews who have abandoned all ties with the Jewish world of their ancestors, who are hostile to Israel and the Jewish world, they are anti-Semites .

And in which country is that true?
And what it means anyway - "abandoned all ties" - do they forsake their families?
"Assimilated Jews" are still Jews - even the term has Jew in it.

To deny that Slansky was executed because he was Jewish,is to deny that Stalin was an anti-Semite .

A highly illogical and factless statement based on the "anybody in conflict with a Jew is an anti-Semite" canard.

[ljadw]

Jews are leaving Western Europe,because of the attacks by Muslims, Liberals and Marxists .The Jewish district in Antwerp is guarded by security agents .
The Muslim districts of Antwerp and Brussels are not guarded by security agents .
''Assimilated ''Jews are not Jews . It is not on you to decide who is Jew or who is not Jew .
''In which country is that true ?'' In almost all countries : most of the Jewish Americans have no /no loner any ties with the Jewish world .
Even in Israel : a big part of the Jewish Israeli do not/no longer consider themselves as Jews,or as Jewish .

[ljadw]

Following Pew Research, intermarriage of Jewish Americans is 61 %.
And, why do you think that Joe Biden,when he was vicepresident, told the Jewish Americans that it was better to leave US for Israel,adding that they would be save only in Israel ?

[wm]

Not true.

Why Joe Biden is Good for Israel

I am a Zionist. (Joe Biden, 2007)

[wm]

Jews are leaving Western Europe,because of the attacks by Muslims, Liberals and Marxists .

That's the far-right canard - it results in mass hate against the Muslims, Liberals, and people branded "Marxists."

The emigration to Israel is about 0.3 percent of the total world Jewish population, a rounding error.

The Jewish district in Antwerp is guarded by security agents .

So what? Tourist attractions are guarded by the police in many Western countries too. In Egypt, they are guarded by the army.
Only in some Eastern European countries (including Poland) the Jews and tourist attractions don't have to be guarded by anybody.

''In which country is that true ?'' In almost all countries : most of the Jewish Americans have no /no loner any ties with the Jewish world .
Even in Israel : a big part of the Jewish Israeli do not/no longer consider themselves as Jews,or as Jewish .

Do we have proof of that? BTW it's a rhetorical question.

In which country are Jews who lost their ties (whatever it means) considered non-Jews for official purposes, including statistical ones?

[Yuri]

Those who talk about Zionism,are secret anti-Semites .

I' am very grateful to You.
My anti-Semitism was hidden so deep inside me that even I didn't know about its existence.
Thanks! Now, thanks to You, I know myself better.

After the death of Stalin, the accusations against the Kremlin doctors were dropped and the regime acknowledged that they were invented .

Here You are lost in three pines.
Who was an anti-Semite in the USSR - a) communism; b) Comrade Stalin or c) the regime?
And if the case of the Kremlin doctors was closed after Stalin's death, did anti-Semitism disappear with his death in the USSR?
And if anti-Semitism disappeared in the USSR with the death of Comrade Stalin, then who destroyed it: communism?, or the regime?, or did the spirit of anti-Semitism disappear along with the spirit of Comrade Stalin without outside help?



P.S. The national policy pursued in the Soviet Union is one of the few things that humanity can be proud of.

[ljadw]

On 6 December 2014, Joe Biden said : '' There is no other threat that worries me more though than the rising tide of anti-Semitism around the world....Anti-Semitism goes hand in hand with an overall effort to delegitimize Israel .''
And in 2016 Biden said the following at the annual conference of the AIPAC: '' Israel is the ultimate guarantor of security for Jewish people around the world . ''
1 Anti-Semitism is rising .
2 Only Israel can protect the Jews
3 US can not protect the Jews ( see what happens at the UCLA )
4 Without Israel,the Jews are doomed .
Other point : the touristic attractions in Antwerp are NOT guarded by security agents ,but the Jews are guarded by security agents .
And 4 years ago, Mireille Knol, 85, holocaust survivor,with a French nationality, she was not an Israeli, was murdered by 2 Muslims, she was murdered because she was Jewish.

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2 Only Israel can protect the Jews

A racist conspiracy theory - frequently used by chauvinists to justify the colonial conquest of Palestine and the expulsion of its population.

4 Without Israel,the Jews are doomed .

Not true; a racist conspiracy theory.

And 4 years ago, Mireille Knol, 85, holocaust survivor,with a French nationality, she was not an Israeli, was murdered by 2 Muslims, she was murdered because she was Jewish.

People are killed every minute, and she was killed during a robbery by hardened criminals.
"Because she was Jewish" is a manipulation of the truth; it was actually "because Jews are usually rich."

[Loïc]

no sorry wm that is wrong, from Copernic and Rosiers streets in the years 80' to Toulouse 2012, the two Halimi, Hyper Casher etc, it is clear that you live in Poland Eastern Europe where maybe it is like that but not in Western Europe like us

Jews are leaving Western Europe,because of the attacks by Muslims, Liberals and Marxists .

That's the far-right canard - it results in mass hate against the Muslims, Liberals, and people branded "Marxists."

fully completely totally agree with ljadw
rather the politically correct denial who closes the eyes on the so-called romantized Che Guevara-style communist revolutionnary far-left canard and its today recognized antisemitism covered under its anti-zionist anti-capitalist pro-palestinan cause
jewish people are leaving if not for others countries at least to interior areas far from the over-represented muslim urban areas, like an internal emigration towards the interior as under the german nazi occupation where they found more protection
cause and source of the antisemitism according to French Jews
73 % from islamists extremists muslims
67 % from the far-left
27 % from the far-right
hard facts

[ljadw]

Those who talk about Zionism,are secret anti-Semites .

I' am very grateful to You.
My anti-Semitism was hidden so deep inside me that even I didn't know about its existence.
Thanks! Now, thanks to You, I know myself better.

After the death of Stalin, the accusations against the Kremlin doctors were dropped and the regime acknowledged that they were invented .

Here You are lost in three pines.
Who was an anti-Semite in the USSR - a) communism; b) Comrade Stalin or c) the regime?
And if the case of the Kremlin doctors was closed after Stalin's death, did anti-Semitism disappear with his death in the USSR?
And if anti-Semitism disappeared in the USSR with the death of Comrade Stalin, then who destroyed it: communism?, or the regime?, or did the spirit of anti-Semitism disappear along with the spirit of Comrade Stalin without outside help?



P.S. The national policy pursued in the Soviet Union is one of the few things that humanity can be proud of.

Who was an anti-Semite in the USSR ? Stalin, Stalin was communism and the regime.
Anti-Semitism did not disappear with the death of Stalin :his successors were also anti-Semites .
Anti-Semitism disappeared ( temporarily ? ) with the advent of Putin : Putin invited the Israeli PM to the 9 May Victory parade , Nikita K, Breznjev, Andropov did not invite the Israeli PM .
Why was the shadow trial of the Kremlin doctors cancelled ? Because a shadow trial implies a new dictator, a new Stalin,and Stalin was succeeded by a collective leadership and all these people :Nikita, Malenkov, Bulganin, even Molotov were afraid of a new Stalin who would eliminate them all,that's why Beria was shot after a secret trial (a shadow trial is a public trial ) and that was why the powers of the Cheka and of the Army were curtailed .The Politbureau knew very well that a shadow trial of the Kremlin doctors would be followed by their shadow trial .

[wm]

73 % from islamists extremists muslims
67 % from the far-left
27 % from the far-right
hard facts

I don't know the source of the numbers, but I'm saying right away they are propaganda bst.
Of course, lots of Muslims dislike or hate Israel for what Israel did and do to their brethren. It's a perfectly understandable human reaction to injustice.
But the people behind the numbers are trying to declare them evil - although it's an understandable human reaction.

Paris (and London) aren't safe for all its inhabitants, not only the Jews.
It's the direct result of the subsequent governments importing masses of poor and culturally backward people - for woke, ideological reasons, mainly from Africa.|
Poland didn't, and it's safe today for everybody, including the Jews.

[wm]

Why was the shadow trial of the Kremlin doctors cancelled ?

Actually, there is evidence Stalin was going to stop the trial because he was informed by a Stalinist he trusted (the young, enthusiastic leader of the Komsomol he asked for a second opinion) that the accusations were bst.
Isn't evidence-based history nice?

[wm]

with the advent of Putin

Russia’s doubling down on offensive remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who accused Jews of being antisemitic and said that Israel is supporting a “neo-Nazi regime” in Kyiv, are an indication that Moscow is all-in on the Ukraine war and is likely to intensify its efforts in the East.

Lavrov is a loyal ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin, and his remarks received a full-throated defense from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs — issued in a nearly 1,000-word statement on Tuesday.
...
Lavrov in an interview on Italian television said Adolf Hitler had “Jewish origins” and that “the wise Jewish people say that the most ardent antisemites are usually Jews.”

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi Loic,

Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism are not necessarily the same thing. It is almost certain that anti-Semites are also anti-Zionist, but the reverse is not necessarily true. There are plenty of arguments against Zionism that don't require one to be ant-Semitic.

I don't understand your statistics. Could you clarify what they mean?

Cheers,

Sid.

P.S. .....and this doesn't even begin to address the point that Palestinians are are also Semitic.