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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 11:01

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13 Nov 2022 01:29
155th Separate Guards Marine Brigade of Pacific Fleet in battle for Pavlovka
This battle, like a little Stalingrad took place concurrently with the Russian withdrawal from Kherson, and has been the subject of considerable drama (that has now passed). It seems to be the minor 'propaganda win' that the Russians used to counterbalance the colossal defeat at Kherson. It seems over the past week the Russian MOD got serious with the place and finally took the town.
Could you point the location of this extremely tiny Putingrad; Compared to the areas recently liberated by Ukrainians newly Orcified teritories appear insignificant:
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 11:19

From 10 November:
In addition to Snihurivka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have liberated Pavlivka, Yevhenivka, Bobrovyi Kut, Bruskinske, Borozenske, and Kyselivka, which is about 15 kilometers from the city of Kherson.
Guess some lucky Ukrainian has a freshly washed Putinistan flag to wipe his arse on.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 12:52

Cult Icon wrote:
13 Nov 2022 01:29
155th Separate Guards Marine Brigade of Pacific Fleet in battle for Pavlovka
Are these the same
marines in the 155th Brigade of Russia's Pacific Fleet who took part in the [Pavlivka] offensive. The marines alleged that their unit had lost approximately 300 people and half of their equipment in just four days. They asked Oleg Kozhemyako, governor of Russia’s Primorsky Krai, to conduct an independent investigation into the actions of the officers responsible for the failed operation and for the heavy losses.
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The marines said that their commanders were counting on capturing Pavlivka by “slipping through” Ukraine’s positions, but that this ultimately caused the men to get trapped in a “kill zone.” Because the commanders are afraid to take responsibility for the failed maneuver, the marines alleged, they proceeded to “conceal and suppress” official data on the losses.
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Primorsky Krai Governor Oleg Kozhemyako said that he had contacted the brigade’s commanders and they had confirmed that there was heavy fighting going on around Pavlivka, but that they called the marines’ reports of high losses “significantly exaggerated.”
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The Russian Defense Ministry said on Telegram Monday that the losses sustained by the 155th Brigade over more than 10 days have not exceeded 1 percent of personnel, adding that the marines “are continuing their offensive in the assigned area of responsibility until the combat mission’s full completion.”
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/08 ... n-pavlivka
If commanders concealed and suppressed official loss data one might wonder whose data the Ruffian offense ministry used.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 13 Nov 2022 14:17

"Avdiivka, the Sparta battalion and the 1st Slavic Brigade of the DPR NM liberated the village of Opytnoye."

https://vk.com/milinfolive?z=video-1235 ... -123538639

Despite the vast improvement of DPR equipment, OOB and battledress, and legal status I think the glacial pace of the Donbass operations (Seversk, Bakhmut, Avdiivka) is affected by the high number of Ukrainian conscripts in its ranks, particularly compared to spring/summer where the DPR units had a lot more success.

At this point only the deployment of new Russian motor-rifle, VDV, and Naval infantry units in the Donbass can progress the operations in a meaningful sense.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 13 Nov 2022 14:28

TV special featuring Buk-M3 and crew

https://vk.com/milinfolive?z=video-1235 ... -123538639

Training exercises by Reservists;



https://vk.com/milinfolive?z=video-1247 ... 51034_5258
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 13 Nov 2022 14:36

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11 Nov 2022 16:13

Curious, according to Russian reporters the "paratroopers" I assume airborne units, were the ones covering the withdrawal and the last to leave.
I am unclear about the VDV OOB at Kherson

They have 4 Airborne divisions and 4 Airborne brigades. I know that elements of the 76ths, 106th, and 38th were at Kherson west bank, and the Oblast itself as a whole has combat battalions from several Naval infantry brigades.


1. Command of the Airborne Forces
2. 38th Guards Control Brigade
3. 45th Separate Guards Special Purpose Brigade (2 OSP)
4. 7th Guards Air Assault Division (9 air assault division, orb and detachment)
5. 76th Guards air assault division (9 dshb, orb and otb)
6. 98th guards airborne division (6 airborne assault division and orb)
7. 106th guards airborne division (6 airborne assault brigade and orb)
8. 11th separate guards air assault brigade (2 air assault brigade, air assault brigade and orb)
9. 31st separate guards air assault brigade (2 air assault brigade, air assault brigade and orb)
10. 83rd separate guards air assault brigade (2 air assault brigade, air assault brigade and orb )
11. 150th Separate Repair and Rehabilitation Battalion
12. 35th Separate Medical Detachment of the Airborne Forces
13. Ryazan Guards Higher Airborne Command School
14. 242nd Training Center of the Airborne Forces
15. 309th Center for Special Parachute Training of the Airborne Forces

Currently the vast majority of Russian motor-rifle and armored are in Russia training with the reservists and volunteers. However it seems like a somewhat higher proportion of the Naval infantry and VDV are still operational in Ukraine.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 14:55

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13 Nov 2022 14:28
TV special featuring Buk-M3 and crew
Is this the same crew that downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17?

Promoted from M1 to M3 for outstanding achievement?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 15:28

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13 Nov 2022 14:17
At this point only the deployment of new Russian motor-rifle, VDV, and Naval infantry units in the Donbass can progress the operations in a meaningful sense.
By running away leaving their equipment behind?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 17:08

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13 Nov 2022 14:17
Despite the vast improvement of DPR equipment, OOB and battledress, and legal status
Do you mean the illegal status after criminal annexation of Ukrainian territories by the Putinistan Khanate?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 13 Nov 2022 18:23

The Ministry of Industry and Trade has appointed the Kalashnikov Concern as a consolidated data integrator and coordinator for the supply of elements of military equipment for the Russian army.

https://news.russia.postsen.com/covid-19/54808.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalashnikov_Concern

This decision is related to the new demands of partial mobilization.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by peeved » 13 Nov 2022 19:06

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13 Nov 2022 18:23
This decision is related to the new demands of partial mobilization.
First mobilize Orcs; Think about arming them later.
Sounds about right for war planning... Putinistan planned economy style.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Gooner1 » 14 Nov 2022 01:24

Ukrainian attack, a few weeks old

Too fast for on off-route AT mine


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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 14 Nov 2022 02:31

After 1 week of halting, Ukraine launched offensive operations 11/12-13 all across the northern front while the Separatists/PMC launched attacks across the Donbass and the Russian army in Z-Oblast at the Vuhledar axis. They are competing on who is more glacial at offensive operations :lol:

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https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3203975
As reported by the newspaper "Vedomosti" in the material of Alexei Nikolsky, Dmitry Grinkevich and Inna Sidorkova "The authorities have revised the principles of procurement for the needs of the armed forces. On November 10, 2022, president Vladimir Putin's instructions on providing the Russian Armed Forces for the needs of a special military operation (SVO) were published on the Kremlin's website.

These instructions were given following a meeting on November 2 with members of the Coordinating Council (CC) under the government, created for this purpose. The government is invited to "complete the definition of the target task for ensuring the needs of the Armed Forces" and other law enforcement agencies during the CVO by November 14, as well as to determine the timing of the task.

Together with the Ministry of Defense, the Cabinet of Ministers is obliged to establish feedback from the military with industry and purchase as much equipment and equipment as necessary to meet the "real needs" of the troops at the front. Already on November 11, the White House should submit proposals to ensure control over the spending of funds for these needs.

The mechanism instructed to create the Constitutional Court under the government is based on the real needs of the troops, and not on the document supporting the state defense order (GOZ) - the state armament program (SAP), says a source close to the Ministry of Defense. The same was stated by Vedomosti and the top manager of the defense industry enterprise. He confirmed that the current GPV has ceased to be a document on the basis of which it is planned to finance the State Defense Fund in the field of procurement of weapons and military equipment (ViVT; purchases of items of clothing allowance and medical support, the tasks for which are also now formed by the Constitutional Court, are not included in the GPV. - "Vedomosti"). In fact, the development of a new LG has been suspended, since it will be necessary to revise priorities based on the experience of the SVO, says the interlocutor of Vedomosti, close to the Ministry of Defense.

Two sources close to the government also confirmed that the actual funding of the army's needs this year was at odds with the original plan approved for 2022 as part of the budget law. One of them noted that the revision of plans during the year compared to the original painting is a traditional story, characteristic not only in relation to the LG, but also to other state programs. The government has fairly broad powers to redistribute funds from one area of expenditure to another, including new ones, he added. Indeed, during the year, the LG was adjusted, but only partially, said another interlocutor of Vedomosti.

Formally, the state program has not been canceled, work on the new plan also continues, said a source close to one of the large enterprises in the defense industry and familiar with the situation. But it is obvious that the current LG does not meet the needs of the CBO and cannot be considered relevant, he agreed.
"Vedomosti" sent requests to the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Industry and Trade. The volume of GOZ is determined by the current needs of the army, the representative of Rostec emphasized.


Former Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission (MIC) of
Russia Andrei Yelchaninov in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta in September 2021 said that the customers of weapons (the Ministry of Defense and other departments) are beginning to prepare a new SAP. This occurs on the basis of documents on the main directions of arms development for the 15-year perspective, as well as on the promising appearance of the Armed Forces for 10 years ahead. In addition, the Military-Industrial Commission of Russia is preparing an analysis of security threats for 30 years ahead, which is coupled with the forecast of Russia's financial and economic development until 2035, Yelchaninov reported. In 2021, all these documents were prepared for the compilation on their basis of the LG for 2023-2033, which should replace the current LG of 2018-2028. (the LG is drawn up for a 10-year period, but is revised every five years). According to Yelchaninov, GPV-2033 was supposed to cost at least 21-22 trillion rubles, i.e. be at the level of GPV-2028 - 21.7 trillion rubles.In

2022, Russia's spending on national defense amounted to 4.679 trillion rubles, follows from the materials to the draft budget for the next three years. This is 1.2 trillion rubles. more than was approved for 2022 - according to the law on the federal budget for the current three-year period, it was planned to spend 3.5 trillion rubles, Vedomosti wrote. In the next two years, defense spending will also be more than expected. In 2023, they will amount to almost 5 trillion rubles, the current law on the budget provided for spending 3.6 trillion. According to the draft Main Directions of the Ministry of Finance, in 2024 expenses will decrease slightly - to 4.6 trillion rubles. in the approved budget for 2022-2024. it was planned to send 3.8 trillion. Further, defense spending will also continue to decline: in 2025 they will amount to 4.2 trillion.

The actual suspension of the implementation of the LG and the development of a new one is completely natural and natural, says Mikhail Barabanov, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies: "It is clear that when conducting CBO, all priorities and volumes of purchases need to be changed." According to Barabanov, the LG is an attempt to drag the system of Soviet long-term military-technical planning into the current conditions of a completely different political and economic order. Therefore, all the LG had to be revised, the expert continues: "Well, the directions of the revision are obvious - in the direction of urgent requirements to the detriment of long-term programs."

New tasks can be formed to meet the urgent needs of the Ground Forces at the expense of the Fleet and the Aerospace Forces (not counting reconnaissance systems and aviation weapons, especially high-precision ones), says Viktor Murakhovsky, editor-in-chief of the Arsenal of the Fatherland magazine. Andrei Frolov, an expert at the Russian International Affairs Council, agrees that the costs of the fleet will be redistributed in favor of the Ground Forces. SVO and partial mobilization have shown that the volume of purchases of the same equipment should be many times greater, he says. We can also expect an increase in spending on the repair of military equipment, Frolov notes. At the same time, R&D, which is close to completion, will not be stopped, the expert is sure.

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