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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Yuri » 12 Sep 2022 16:42

The scheme of the gas transportation system of Ukraine for understanding the situation in the Kharkiv-Kupyansk-Izyum area.
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Starting from May 11 and up to the present, gas transit to Europe only through the Sudzha Gas Distribution Station in the amount of 43 million cubic meters per day.
Since mid-May, Ukraine has refused to pass gas through other operating gas distribution stations. The Kiev regime motivates this by the fact that it cannot control these stations as these stations are located on the territory liberated by forces of the DPR/LPR/Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
Since September 3 of this year, GAZPROM has completely stopped supplying gas to Germany via the Nord Stream offshore gas pipeline.
At the same time, to say that now the price for 1000 cubic meters of gas is sky-high is to say nothing
GAZPROM may increase the volume of gas supplies to Europe (transit through Ukraine) another 43 million cubic meters per day. To do this, it is necessary to transfer one of the three operating stations under the control of the Kiev regime, which are now under the control of the DPR/LPR forces/Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 12 Sep 2022 19:24

The russian army abandoned a lot of equipment in its socalled orderly retreat.
https://youtu.be/SGu8AhMKIQo

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Peter89 » 12 Sep 2022 19:30

Yuri wrote:
12 Sep 2022 16:42
The scheme of the gas transportation system of Ukraine for understanding the situation in the Kharkiv-Kupyansk-Izyum area.
GTS_Ukraine.jpg

Starting from May 11 and up to the present, gas transit to Europe only through the Sudzha Gas Distribution Station in the amount of 43 million cubic meters per day.
Since mid-May, Ukraine has refused to pass gas through other operating gas distribution stations. The Kiev regime motivates this by the fact that it cannot control these stations as these stations are located on the territory liberated by forces of the DPR/LPR/Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
Since September 3 of this year, GAZPROM has completely stopped supplying gas to Germany via the Nord Stream offshore gas pipeline.
At the same time, to say that now the price for 1000 cubic meters of gas is sky-high is to say nothing
GAZPROM may increase the volume of gas supplies to Europe (transit through Ukraine) another 43 million cubic meters per day. To do this, it is necessary to transfer one of the three operating stations under the control of the Kiev regime, which are now under the control of the DPR/LPR forces/Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
What you imply in your comment is the most interesting and debated question of these weeks.

Do you think that Ukraine and Russia cut some deal to allow the flow of gas to Central and Southern Europe before the winter (to quell the tensions that rose in the past weeks in Czechia, etc.), while the gas flow in the northern routes - Poland, Germany, etc. - will continue to discontinue?

This would stabilize the economic situation for the winter in the C-S EU (where part of the population is pro-peace already) and give some income to both Ukraine and Russia (ensuring the continuation of the war into the next year), while the north-western part of Europe will be either confronted by confiscating gas from the C-S EU or negotiating for it with Russia, if they want to avoid restrictive economic measures?

If so, do you have any proof for this, or is it pure speculation? (Which is fine at this point.)
"Everything remained theory and hypothesis. On paper, in his plans, in his head, he juggled with Geschwaders and Divisions, while in reality there were really only makeshift squadrons at his disposal."

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Yuri » 12 Sep 2022 21:00

Aida1 wrote:
12 Sep 2022 19:24
The russian army abandoned a lot of equipment in its socalled orderly retreat.
https://youtu.be/SGu8AhMKIQo
This is a well-known ammunition depot and repair base near Balakleya. One of the largest ammunition depots (there are underground casemates), which Ukraine inherited from the Soviet Army. When the Ukrainian army left Balakleya in the spring of this year, all this remained in place.
It is dangerous to use these ammunition, they have not been examined for more than 30 years. Youtube, unfortunately, removes all videos with unprofitable views for Ukraine. One of these videos shows this base in high quality when it was inspected by representatives of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In that Russian video, the casemates are visible both from the outside and their contents inside.
At that time, in addition to Soviet ammunition, NATO ammunition (such as Jivelin, NVEL, Stinger, etc.) were also in huge quantities in the casemates. As can be seen in this Ukrainian video, NATO ammunition was taken out, since they had passports and they were suitable for use.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 12 Sep 2022 21:10

Like the withdrawal in the Spring, the Russians are more concerned with preserving their soldiers than losing equipment. They have a lot of the latter, the former, very few compared to their enemy.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Yuri » 12 Sep 2022 21:30

The fact that this area will not be defended became known the day before the start of the offensive of the Ukrainian armed forces. This was written by the commander of the special regiment Akhmat Apti Alaudinov.
The first line of defense consisted of a thin and rare chain of older military personnel of the People's Militia of the Luhansk People's Republic.
There was no second line of defense.
The armed forces of the Russian Federation were absent in this area, at least in any significant numbers.
In the settlements of Balakleya and Kupyansk, there were garrisons numbering from a company to a battalion - these were Rosgvardiya without heavy weapons (only mortars).
I have very good reasons to assume (but I have no proof) that people from the Luhansk People's Republic were left to be exchanged for captured members of the Azov regiment, who otherwise will soon be tried in Mariupol.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 13 Sep 2022 01:12

I mean the Russians defend Ukraine extremely thinly. The open sources consider 2/3rds of the Russian army in Ukraine as occupying rear areas with only 1/3rd in the frontline.

The frontline is mainly screened by Drone-artillery and other fire support. Tactical density 40-10 men per KM of front. Russian fire support has been adequate at stopping Ukrainian attacks until now.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 13 Sep 2022 02:21

Cult Icon wrote:
12 Sep 2022 13:40
Martin_from_Valhalla wrote:
12 Sep 2022 08:34
These days our flight is called withdrawal instead of retreat...
The Russians have been conducting deliberate withdrawals. The speed of which they are doing so gives the impression that the staffwork was already done and these are contingency plans. They do not want to fight the Ukrainian masses with disadvantage and like the 1st withdrawal they aimed to preserve their units.

I have always interpreted the Kharkiv' axis as their secondary/insurance in case things go pear shaped.
You are insanely optimistic to claim the withdrawl was planned. This was a rout, as evidenced by the mountains of captured equipment and vehicles. The RU ran, and they ran fast. They still might be running, but I havnt seen photo evidence to back up some of the claims of UKR forces taking Lyman or Svatove.

The pell-mell rout will no doubt decay the RU morale further. I wonder how bad it will get when the inevitable surrender of RU forces near Kherson takes place.

In the mean time, the RU continue to paw pitifully at a few blocks of terrain near Bahkmut. What a contrast !

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 13 Sep 2022 02:29

Cult Icon wrote:
12 Sep 2022 21:10
Like the withdrawal in the Spring, the Russians are more concerned with preserving their soldiers than losing equipment. They have a lot of the latter, the former, very few compared to their enemy.
That would explain the lack of body armor, and issue of Mosin-Nagants to their allies. Oh, and dont forget the 4-man coffins, the T-62. Putin doesnt give a single shit about any of the conscripts, newly-released felons, or ethnic minorities he shoveled into the grinder. Shoigu is a total hack incompetant and corrupt as they come. The entire miserable lot of RU MOD buffoons had no plan once their "3-day shock and awe" went over as well as a fart in an elevator.

A lot of the latter, you say ? Certainly not as much now that they left a buffet of abandoned vehicles and ammunition for the UKR. UKR has more tanks now than they started the war with.....RU not so much. [womp womp]

Putin be a stronk leeder !

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Tom Peters » 13 Sep 2022 02:32

Cult Icon wrote:
13 Sep 2022 01:12
I mean the Russians defend Ukraine extremely thinly. The open sources consider 2/3rds of the Russian army in Ukraine as occupying rear areas with only 1/3rd in the frontline.

The frontline is mainly screened by Drone-artillery and other fire support. Tactical density 40-10 men per KM of front. Russian fire support has been adequate at stopping Ukrainian attacks until now.
Care to name these open sources ? Of course, if this is true, this would seem to imply that the RU are seen as hated invaders, and not welcome.

Wouldnt it be nice if Putin put an end to this war tomorrow ? He could. Wouldnt we all agree this would be a good thing ?

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by ljadw » 13 Sep 2022 07:16

Tom Peters wrote:
13 Sep 2022 02:32
Cult Icon wrote:
13 Sep 2022 01:12
I mean the Russians defend Ukraine extremely thinly. The open sources consider 2/3rds of the Russian army in Ukraine as occupying rear areas with only 1/3rd in the frontline.

Of course, if this is true, this would seem to imply that the RU are seen as hated invaders, and not welcome.



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Not necessarily :it is possible that these 2/3 rds are non combat forces who are busy with supplying the other third,or that because of logistical problems they can't operate in the frontline, or that they are not needed in the frontline .

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by ljadw » 13 Sep 2022 07:19

Tom Peters wrote:
13 Sep 2022 02:32
Cult Icon wrote:
13 Sep 2022 01:12
I mean the Russians defend Ukraine extremely thinly. The open sources consider 2/3rds of the Russian army in Ukraine as occupying rear areas with only 1/3rd in the frontline.

The frontline is mainly screened by Drone-artillery and other fire support. Tactical density 40-10 men per KM of front. Russian fire support has been adequate at stopping Ukrainian attacks until now.
Care to name these open sources ? Of course, if this is true, this would seem to imply that the RU are seen as hated invaders, and not welcome.

Wouldnt it be nice if Putin put an end to this war tomorrow ? He could. Wouldnt we all agree this would be a good thing ?

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There are a lot of people in DC and London who would disagree that this would be a good thing .

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 13 Sep 2022 08:08

Cult Icon wrote:
12 Sep 2022 21:10
Like the withdrawal in the Spring, the Russians are more concerned with preserving their soldiers than losing equipment. They have a lot of the latter, the former, very few compared to their enemy.
Spin. They were routed but you cannot accept that idea. 😂😂

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Hikari » 13 Sep 2022 10:22

In fact, I don't think the Russian army can be replenished with either equipment or manpower, and expanding the size of the army is even more impossible (given the long training cycle for NCOs and more senior officers)

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