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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 30 Mar 2023 05:39

Takeaways from AP’s interview with Ukraine’s Zelenskyy

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-zele ... daf914fd45

"THE FIGHT FOR BAKHMUT

The longest battle of the war is raging in the eastern city of Bakhmut, where Ukrainian and Russian forces have been locked in a grinding conflict for seven months.

Some Western military analysts have questioned why Ukraine is willing to suffer so many losses to defend the territory, arguing that the city is not of strategic significance. Zelenskyy argued otherwise, saying any loss in the war will give Russia an opening. He predicted that if Russia defeats Ukraine in Bakhmut, Putin would set out to “sell” a victory to the international community.

“If he will feel some blood, smell that we are weak, he will push, push, push,” Zelenskyy said, adding that the pressure would come not only from the international community but also from within his own country.

“Our society will feel tired,” he said. “Our society will push me to have compromise with them.”

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Michael Kenny » 30 Mar 2023 06:18

Tom Peters wrote:
30 Mar 2023 01:44
or the RU economy to take a serious nosedive..............
I hear that moves are afoot to make the above a new verse in the song 'Scarborough Fair' ..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0kWzx ... racyAtWork

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 30 Mar 2023 11:12

Michael Kenny wrote:
26 Mar 2023 16:22
Gooner1 wrote:
26 Mar 2023 15:51



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"1/ Another account has been published of Russia's disastrous attempt to seize Vuhledar last month using poorly trained and equipped mobilised soldiers. One man says only three out of his unit of 300 survived, having been sent to fight with "bare hands".

What's that you say Skippy?
You mean they are now even running out of shovels?
It must be true, we have a photo


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You are unwilling to face the reality of your favourite army using its soldiers like cannon fodder.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 30 Mar 2023 11:14

Michael Kenny wrote:
29 Mar 2023 14:55
Gooner1 wrote:
29 Mar 2023 14:29
. Imagine a Ukraine equipped with scores of F-16s, Typhoons and Rafales; hundreds of Leopards, Abrams, Bradleys, CV90s, HIMARS, GLSDB etc etc
Luftwaffe 1946!
Steiner is to be completely re-equipped with Maus tanks & LL and joined by Patton on a march to Moscow.


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29 Mar 2023 14:29

Surely you realise that the steady stream of Western aid to Ukraine could become a flood once the West stops worrying about 'escalation'.
Not gonna happen.
China has Russia's back if that happens. Any Western/NATO 'flood' of weapons willbe a mere trickle in comparison to the tsunami of China's reaction.
Silly wishful thinking. Russia may consider itself happy that NATO is too meek to exploit the weakness of Russia and hit it hard.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 30 Mar 2023 11:16

Michael Kenny wrote:
29 Mar 2023 02:25
waldopepper wrote:
29 Mar 2023 02:16


Your sentence is quite misleading. The article you cited says that the US command knew that the shelter had been used as a civilian bomb shelter but believed it had been converted to a command center and targeted it as such. The US does not knowingly bomb civilian targets but in war mistakes are made. This is a far cry from the Russian pervasive, intentional and repeated targeting of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
Mistakes?
Why not use the word invented to sanitise the killing of civilians. Did you not get the message about 'Collaterally Damage?
Have another go and tell us about the Granai airstrike.
You are not credible given your support for Putin. Western countries have strict rules of engagement and limit civilian casualties to the minimum. Civialian casualties are inevitable in war but there is a big difference between the indiscrminate bombing practiced by Russia and using precision strikes .

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by PunctuationHorror » 30 Mar 2023 12:06

Michael Kenny wrote:
29 Mar 2023 14:55
Gooner1 wrote:
29 Mar 2023 14:29
. Imagine a Ukraine equipped with scores of F-16s, Typhoons and Rafales; hundreds of Leopards, Abrams, Bradleys, CV90s, HIMARS, GLSDB etc etc
Luftwaffe 1946!
Steiner is to be completely re-equipped with Maus tanks & LL and joined by Patton on a march to Moscow.


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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Gooner1 » 30 Mar 2023 13:22

"Germany to send additional 12 billion euros in military support to Ukraine

BERLIN, March 29 (Reuters) - The German government has agreed to send an additional 12 billion euros ($13.01 billion) worth of military support to Ukraine.

The Budget Committee of the German Bundestag gave the green light on Wednesday for the unbudgeted expenditure, which was requested by the defence ministry and the foreign office.

The additional funding includes 3.2 billion euros to be disbursed in 2023 and credit lines for the period between 2024 and 2032 amounting to some 8.8 billion euros."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ge ... 023-03-29/

Can refurbish a lot of Leopard 2s with €3.2 billion :milsmile:

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by dgfred » 30 Mar 2023 14:49

6,000 Regulars... almost 30,000 convicts and recruits? Hmmm

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 30 Mar 2023 14:55

Marinka, which used to be a city with high rises, resembles "Lyudnikov's Island" in the battle of Stalingrad.

The Ukrainians never stop sending infantry units into the ash-heap due to the areas' strategic importance.

Marinka has effectively been annihilated several times by now.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by wm » 30 Mar 2023 23:44

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Cult Icon » 31 Mar 2023 01:21

"China says it’s open to more military cooperation with Russia

Beijing’s defence ministry says it is willing to take part in more joint drills and patrols as well as working to promote global peace

Chinese President Xi Jinping reaffirms the country’s ties with Moscow in his recent visit, but also offers to help bring an end to the war in Ukraine"

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/militar ... ion-russia

The two countries would work together to build trust between their militaries, safeguard international fairness and justice, as well as implement the Global Security Initiative, a Chinese project to promote peace, Tan Kefei, a defence ministry spokesman, told a regular press briefing.

“The Chinese military is willing to work together with the Russian military to fully implement the important consensus reached by the two heads of state, further strengthening strategic communication and coordination,” Tan said

Earlier this month China, Russia and Iran held a five-day exercise in the Gulf of Oman, which Tan described as “enhancing the capabilities of the three countries to jointly carry out diversified maritime military missions, further deepening traditional friendship and practical cooperation, and contributing positively to maintaining maritime security”.
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by wm » 31 Mar 2023 01:30

Not that easy to bomb Kyiv with joint patrols.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

Post by Aida1 » 31 Mar 2023 07:41

Russian armor killed by Javelin.
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