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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 01 Apr 2023, 01:25

Time did not come for bankrupcy, it is too early. Hitory has a habit to repeat itself. What is bankrupcy of Russia or USSR? The war will last while Putin is alive or till Russia goes bankrupt. Money have tendency to end and plugging in a printing machine was never a good idea as it leads to inflation. Riots are what expecting Russia and these riots won't be petty like they always were. When the fridge wins TV, when an empty stomach wins and emty head, things tend to get unexpectable.

Let's wait for some five or ten years and we'll see if it's capitalism what keeps Russia afloat or it's just communism was so bad as an economic system.

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Post by Gooner1 » 01 Apr 2023, 01:32

Michael Kenny wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 00:24

Deluded fantasy. Russia can supply all the energy and minerals China needs to end her reliance on 'the west'. If Saudi Arabia is allowed into BRICS they will control half the worlds oil resources. There are benefits for both sides and 'the west' and its shills are trying very hard to mitigate the disaster that has befallen their plans to isolate and bankrupt Russia. The power of 'the west' to blackmail the rest of the world has been drastically curtailed and its downhill all the way for them from now on.
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Post by Gooner1 » 01 Apr 2023, 01:35

Berto wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 23:44

Hmm my dear friend, which countries has China invaded in the last, shall we say, forty years?
Depending on your definition there is Hong Kong and Macau.

Certainly there citizens never gave the impression they'd rather be part of the PRC until their takeover ...

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Post by Michael Kenny » 01 Apr 2023, 01:42

Gooner1 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 01:32


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Post by Michael Kenny » 01 Apr 2023, 01:44

Martin_from_Valhalla wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 01:25


Let's wait for some five or ten years .................
What?
At the start of this we were assured it would be a matter of months.

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Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 01 Apr 2023, 02:06

Michael Kenny wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 01:44
Martin_from_Valhalla wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 01:25


Let's wait for some five or ten years .................
What?
At the start of this we were assured it would be a matter of months.
Lol, we were also assured that Kiev falls in a matter of three days when our powerful army crosses the border, though even nazis were going to take Moscow in six months in 1941. Everyone thought so in the beginning and I was telling everyone that this war will last for years while Putin is alive.

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Post by Globalization41 » 01 Apr 2023, 02:36

Ken asked: What about bombing countries (that don't love you) since 1945?

USA Bombings

China 1945-46
Communists were invading China at the time. Communist tactics include ISIS-like behaviors. I don't think there was much bombing from U.S. forces. America was tired of war. There were only about 700 non-combat U.S. troops in South Korea by the time of North Korea's invasion.

Korea 1950-53
Stalin authorized Mao to authorize its puppet state North Korea to invade South Korea. U.S. air power supported ground troops during the Communist war of aggression.

China 1950-53
Communist China intervened with military support for North Korea when the invasion failed. U.S. air power supported U.N. ground troops.

Guatemala 1954
Not sure why anyone would bomb Guatemala. The Guatemalans love America.

Indonesia 1958
Not sure on this one too. The only thing I know about Indonesia is its territory was coveted and invaded by troops representing the Japanese Empire.

Cuba 1959-60
It probably had something to do with Castro. I'm not sure if Castro used ISIS-like tactics. ... Most Cubans love America. Castro was a hot-headed grouch.

Guatemala 1960
Not sure why anyone would bomb Guatemala. The Guatemalans love America.

Belgian Congo 1964
Not sure on this one either. Independence from colonialism was the fad of the day. Democracies are difficult to build.

Guatemala 1964
See above.

Dominican Republic 1965-66
Not sure on this one. Most Dominicans would love to be American.

Peru 1965
Not sure on this one.

Laos 1964-73
Communist invaders used Laos for supply routes to South Vietnam. Laotians now make up some of America's most loyal citizens. Many of these Laotians had anti-Communist relatives who survived in refugee camps for many years before making it to the U.S.

Vietnam 1961-73
U.S. air power supported the fight against Communist invaders. The fall of South Vietnam resulted in millions of refugees fleeing the ISIS-like Communists.

Cambodia 1969-70
U.S. air power blocked the Communist invasion of Cambodia until Congress pulled the plug in August 1973. The invaders soon swarmed Cambodia and began mass executions.

Guatemala 1967-69
See above.

Lebanon 1982-84
Reagan made a mistake and he got out.

Grenada 1983-84
I'm not convinced that was needed.

Libya 1986
I think Reagan tried to eliminate the Libyan dictator.

El Salvador 1981-92
I don't remember any bombing missions to El Salvadore. Most El Salvadoreans would love to come to the U.S.

Nicaragua 1981-90
I don't remember these bombing missions either. Nicaraguans in general love America.

Iran 1987-88
Bombing Iran seems un-strategic. ... Iran suppresses 50% of its population because they're female. If they show their face they're hit with canes. Iran was better off under the Shah.

Libya 1989
I don't remember that bombing campaign.

Panama 1989-90
This bombing had something to do with drugs. I don't think the U.S. is still occupying Panama though.

Iraq 1991
This was done to liberate Kuwait.

Kuwait 1991
This was where the Iraqi invaders were.

Somalia 1992-94
Not sure about the bombing campaign against Somalia.

Bosnia 1995
This probably had something to do with mass murders authorized by Serbian leaders.

Iran 1998
Don't know. All I know about Iran is that it was better off under the Shah and the leadership is prejudiced against woman.

Sudan 1998
I believe this bombing mission was authorized by mistake.

Afghanistan 1998
Not sure about the bombing campaign in 1998. Weren't there public executions ongoing at the time?

Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
Don't know much about this one either. It probably had something to do with someone wanting to change borders.

Afghanistan 2001
This should have been a hit-and-run expeditionary mission in retaliation for 9/11. It was not natural to permanently station American troops there.

Libya 2011
Probably for regime change. A lot of groupings wanted that oil, too.

Iraq and Syria 2014 –
Iraq was due to ISIS. Seemingly also, the attempt to cause regime change in Syria was not strategic for America.

Somalia 2011 –
Probably the War on ISIS.

Iran 2020 –
Trump retaliated against an Iranian terror bomber.

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Post by Michael Kenny » 01 Apr 2023, 02:48

Globalization41 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:36

Afghanistan 1998
Not sure about the bombing campaign in 1998. Weren't there public executions ongoing at the time?

Ah that must be it.
So where can I read about the US Bombing raids on Saudi Arabia because of their public executions?

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Post by Globalization41 » 01 Apr 2023, 03:07

Now that I think about it, didn't Clinton launch a missile attack against Binladen in Afghanistan? Binladen was originally from Saudi Arabia. Not sure of public executions in Saudi Arabia.

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Post by Cult Icon » 01 Apr 2023, 04:57

Martin_from_Valhalla wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:06
Everyone thought so in the beginning and I was telling everyone that this war will last for years while Putin is alive.
For 3 months the Ukrainian military and political leadership kept claiming that the Russians would launch a strategic offensive in Jan-March 2023. Turns out these were more lies and disinformation to encourage more western aid.

It turns out that the Russian army canceled the winter offensive, skipped sending brigades to Ukraine and just jumped straight into building divisions.

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Post by Cult Icon » 01 Apr 2023, 05:44

China/CCP really likes the USA these days:


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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Aida1 » 01 Apr 2023, 09:46

ljadw wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 12:35
Aida1 wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 12:16
Michael Kenny wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 03:25
waldopepper wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 03:16


Your sentence is quite misleading. The article you cited says that the US command knew that the shelter had been used as a civilian bomb shelter but believed it had been converted to a command center and targeted it as such. The US does not knowingly bomb civilian targets but in war mistakes are made. This is a far cry from the Russian pervasive, intentional and repeated targeting of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
Mistakes?
Why not use the word invented to sanitise the killing of civilians. Did you not get the message about 'Collaterally Damage?
Have another go and tell us about the Granai airstrike.
You are not credible given your support for Putin. Western countries have strict rules of engagement and limit civilian casualties to the minimum. Civialian casualties are inevitable in war but there is a big difference between the indiscrminate bombing practiced by Russia and using precision strikes .
Precision attacks as in Hamburg, Dresden, Berlin, Mortsel, Kortrijk ,Syria, Irak, Afghanistan,Vietnam,... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Typical falsification of history . The US did execute daylight raids in ww2 in order to try to hit specific targets with the technology then available. More successful than what the british did. In post ww2 conflicts there was better technology to limit the inevitable collateral damage. There certainly never were indiscrimInate attacks by the US in modern conflicts.

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Post by Aida1 » 01 Apr 2023, 09:48

Michael Kenny wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 00:24
Martin_from_Valhalla wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 00:12

Looks like Putin is just a puppet. :o Xi is warring with USA in economics and he whispers to Putin: let's overthrow USA from the throne of the world and Putin surely agrees not understanding that the time of Russia as a world power finished in 1991. Xi just wants to have a dialogue with USA as an equal peer, as someone who Americans should count and take into consideration. China is just using Russia as distabilizing factor when the time to come to an agreement with USA comes. And Russia with her resourses will be a nice gift to him in the end as a colony.
Deluded fantasy. Russia can supply all the energy and minerals China needs to end her reliance on 'the west'. If Saudi Arabia is allowed into BRICS they will control half the worlds oil resources. There are benefits for both sides and 'the west' and its shills are trying very hard to mitigate the disaster that has befallen their plans to isolate and bankrupt Russia. The power of 'the west' to blackmail the rest of the world has been drastically curtailed and its downhill all the way for them from now on.
Stupid anti-western wishful thinking; :lol: :lol:

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Post by Aida1 » 01 Apr 2023, 09:49

Yuri wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 13:07
ljadw wrote:
31 Mar 2023, 12:35
Aida1 wrote:
30 Mar 2023, 12:16
Michael Kenny wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 03:25
waldopepper wrote:
29 Mar 2023, 03:16


Your sentence is quite misleading. The article you cited says that the US command knew that the shelter had been used as a civilian bomb shelter but believed it had been converted to a command center and targeted it as such. The US does not knowingly bomb civilian targets but in war mistakes are made. This is a far cry from the Russian pervasive, intentional and repeated targeting of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
Mistakes?
Why not use the word invented to sanitise the killing of civilians. Did you not get the message about 'Collaterally Damage?
Have another go and tell us about the Granai airstrike.
You are not credible given your support for Putin. Western countries have strict rules of engagement and limit civilian casualties to the minimum. Civialian casualties are inevitable in war but there is a big difference between the indiscrminate bombing practiced by Russia and using precision strikes .
Precision attacks as in Hamburg, Dresden, Berlin, Mortsel, Kortrijk ,Syria, Irak, Afghanistan,Vietnam,... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
With special, I would say, jewelry precision were the strikes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The accuracy of these strikes can only be compared to spraying chemical defoliants over Vietnamese jungles and rice fields. The accuracy of the hit is in a grain of rice.
Very stupid comment. :lol: :lol:

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