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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Empiricist » 25 May 2023, 13:50

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The Kremlin invested a lot into propaganda that portrayed Russia as the sole leader in hypersonic technology and, moreover, as the first military power to ever use hypersonic weapons in combat.
What the Kremlin propagandists were not too eager to reveal about the Kinzhal was that it was not a brand new design – but a modification of the Iskander missile.
As a surface-to-surface short-range, tactical ballistic missile system, the Iskander’s design dates back to the 1980s and is also widely used against Ukraine.
Amid the hypersonic race in the 2010s, Russia adapted the Iskander missile to be launched not from the ground but an aircraft – and called this a hypersonic missile system Kh-47M2 Kinzhal.

But to be called a hypersonic missile armament, it’s not enough to just travel at the speed of over Mach 5.
Pretty much any ballistic missile reaches hypersonic speed. That includes Iskanders, any intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), or even Nazi Germany’s V-2 missiles used in 1944 and 1945.
To be considered a truly hypersonic weapon, a missile must also be highly maneuverable at a hypersonic speed.

Despite Putin’s unsupported claims, the Kinzhal has never demonstrated anything more than minor flight course corrections, which is typical for many conventional ballistic systems.
In a 2020 report, NATO classified the Kinzhal as an “air-launched ballistic missile” that is “not generally characterized as a hypersonic weapon.”
Yes.

According to primitive Russky propaganda Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is Mach 10 missile. Very funny. Then how come older variant of Patriot (in Ukraine) with its Mach 2.8 is able to shot down Kinzhal very easily, not to mention the newest Mach 4.1 Patriot. Russky crooks and idiots :lol:

I wait impatiently for the first air combat between Ukrainian F-16AM Block 20 MLU and another ridiculous Russky myth of Su-57 being supposedly "5th Generation fighter" :lol:

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Post by Empiricist » 25 May 2023, 15:09

One more FAB-500M-62 UMPK bomb has just been found in Belgorod. Looks like well-trained Hero of the Russian Federation on board of Su-34 who bombed this Russian town on April 20th, 2023 dropped all his FAB-500 M62 UMPKs against this town, not two only (two have been found so far).

Congratulations. Also for Russian air force technicians because bomb is unexploded shell.
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Post by Ken S. » 25 May 2023, 15:35

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Post by Cult Icon » 25 May 2023, 15:55

Bakhmut newsreel, inspecting the ruins

https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3646975

"PMC "Wagner" began to withdraw from Bakhmut. It is planned that by June 1 the city will completely come under the control of the RF Armed Forces."

https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3646479

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Post by Cult Icon » 25 May 2023, 15:58

recent photo of CIC Zaluzny in casual clothes, admid rumors that he is missing from the front because he was injured or killed.

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Post by Orwell1984 » 25 May 2023, 17:04

ljadw wrote:
25 May 2023, 11:50
Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa ,English speaking countries, do not admit the seven-continent mode .
The National Strategy to Improve Literacy and Numeracy among Children and Young People 2011 — 2020
run by the Irish Department of Education and Skills created the following website. (current as of 2022)

https://www.helpmykidlearn.ie/activitie ... continents
A continent is a very large land mass. There are seven continents - Europe, Asia, North and South America, Africa, Oceania/Australasia, and Antartica. Although Europe and Asia are one continuous land mass, we count them as two continents. Ireland is at the western edge of the continent of Europe.
So that's Ireland.

From the New Zealand Ministry of Education Website (TKI)

https://schools.look4.net.nz/geography/ ... he%20World

A map of the world used in developing curriculum.

Seven continents are shown: Asia, Europe, North America, South America, Europe, Australia, Antarctica.

So two of the countries you claimed didn't teach the seven continent model actually do, Ireland and New Zealand.

Regardless of the debate itself, this actual research took me less than ten minutes and demonstrates you are an unreliable source.

Or just too lazy to make the minimum effort to back up your assertions.

To paraphrase a saying I've seen floating around these forums, your claim regarding New Zealand and Ireland can be thrown under the bus.
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Post by Empiricist » 25 May 2023, 17:15

Videoed drone attack against this ship.

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Post by Cult Icon » 25 May 2023, 17:20

There is some pressure going on at Adiivka pocket. There is a significant possibility that Wagner's next mission will be to blow up the remnants of the city and clear out the Ukrainians, perhaps in 2 months.

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Post by Gooner1 » 25 May 2023, 17:40

Empiricist wrote:
25 May 2023, 17:15
Videoed drone attack against this ship.


Ivan Khurs successfully stops a Ukrainian sea drone

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Post by Empiricist » 25 May 2023, 18:01

Gooner1 wrote:
25 May 2023, 17:40
Empiricist wrote:
25 May 2023, 17:15
Videoed drone attack against this ship.


Ivan Khurs successfully stops a Ukrainian sea drone
Situation isn't clear so far. Earlier Russkies lied that "Moscow" did not sink, that "Saratov" never exploded and is not destroyed completely etc., etc. "Ivan Khurs" was attacked by three naval drones -- we have to wait for more information.

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Post by Ken S. » 25 May 2023, 18:30

Discussions regarding reported Russian losses in Bakhmut have saturated the pro-war information space and are drowning out any remaining positive informational effect resulting from the city’s capture. Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed during an interview with Russian political strategist Konstantin Dolgov on May 23 that Wagner lost 10,000 convict recruits and 10,000 full-time professional Wagner fighters killed in action over the course of the Battle for Bakhmut.[1] Prigozhin specifically noted that Wagner had recruited 50,000 prisoners, 20 percent of whom (10,000) died in fighting for Bakhmut.[2] Russian milbloggers immediately seized on the reported losses, thereby shifting the overall Russian conversation away from discussions of the significance of the capture of Bakhmut and towards amplifying speculation surrounding the reported losses. The nationalist pro-war faction, exemplified by the views of former Russian officer Igor Girkin, commented on the massive scale of the reported losses and speculated that real losses may be much higher. Russian politician Viktor Alksnis simply remarked that the Soviet Army lost far fewer soldiers (15,051) in nine years in Afghanistan.[3] Girkin stated that he believes that Wagner’s actual losses could be more than 1.5 times higher than Prigozhin’s claims and pointed out that of the 50,000 recruits Wagner received from prisons, 10,000 died in action and 26,000 reportedly received pardons and returned to Russia, leaving 14,000 prison recruits unaccounted for.[4] Girkin suggested that a large portion of these 14,000 unaccounted-for prison recruits may have also been killed in action and claimed that Wagner has likely suffered more than 40,000 killed in action.[5] Girkin suggested that Prigozhin “keep [his] mouth shut” and stop talking about “wild losses for a very insignificant result.”[6] Another Russian milblogger, by contrast, praised Prigozhin for being open about the scale of losses and stated that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) would have hidden such figures.[7]
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Post by Michael Kenny » 25 May 2023, 18:48

More details of the incursion are emerging. It appears the invaders never advanced very far into Russia and were confronted by regular Russian troops pretty quickly. Russian aircraft attacked them with impunity and they quickly turned tail and crossed back into Ukraine.
Film stills showing local Russian troops closing off the much-photographed border crossing point.

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Post by Michael Kenny » 25 May 2023, 18:56

Empiricist wrote:
25 May 2023, 18:01

Situation isn't clear so far. Earlier Russkies lied that "Moscow" did not sink, that "Saratov" never exploded and is not destroyed completely etc., etc. "Ivan Khurs" was attacked by three naval drones -- we have to wait for more information.
This is a guard ship for the gas pipeline to Turkey. Perhaps another US sabotage attempt is in the offing?
Turkey is not going to be pleased with this turn of events and it is sure to infuriate Erdoğan

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