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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Gooner1 » 05 Jun 2023, 22:15

"Anti-Putin Russian Volunteer Corps have taken full control of Novaya Tavolzhanka, a town of 5,000 people in Russia on the border. All Kremlin regime enforcers in the area either killed, fled, or surrendered

Large Russian conscript units dispatched to the border in Belgorod region have been wiped out. Many surrendered. Russian conscripts are in mutiny against their command. They blame Colonel Kolchin.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1665786537982738440

A day ago, Russian Freedom Legion destroyed 2 Russian tanks, 1 BMP-3, and 1 BRDM armored scout vehicle in Shebekino on the border in Belgorod region using drones. Same timing as being discussed in the video above.
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As Belgorod governor refused to show up to take back Russian soldiers who surrendered, Russian Freedom Legion offered the exchange to Prigozhin for Lt. Colonel Venevitin. Russian-Russian POW exchange. We are witnessing the start of Russia's civil war.

If the exchange takes place, this is masterful strategically:
- Most of the POWs are young Russian conscripts fresh out of basic training on compulsory service. According to Russian law, they should have never seen any combat. Huge sympathy toward them by the Russian public.
- Lt. Col. Venevitin has been accused of war crimes and abuse by his own subordinate Russian soldiers. The Russian public has no sympathy for him.
- Establishes the authority of the anti-Putin Russian revolutionaries in the eyes of the Russian public.
- Big 'win' for Prigozhin which will further destabilize the Russian military.
- Basically, everyone wins except the Russian military and the Kremlin regime.

If the exchange takes place, Russian Freedom Legion would likely turn over Lt. Col. Venevitin to Ukraine to be tried for war crimes."

https://twitter.com/igorsushko

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Michael Kenny » 05 Jun 2023, 22:55

Gooner1 wrote:
05 Jun 2023, 22:15
"Anti-Putin Russian Volunteer Corps have taken full control of Novaya Tavolzhanka....
A lot of their footage and claims have been exposed as 'staged' or incorrectly located. One section of their 'combat footage' was conclusively shown (building match) to be them training in, of all places, Chenobyl.
Be very careful taking anything they say at face values.


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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Michael Kenny » 05 Jun 2023, 23:03

Location of knocked-out vehicles found. 75 km SSW of Donetsk
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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Gooner1 » 05 Jun 2023, 23:32

Michael Kenny wrote:
05 Jun 2023, 22:55

Be very careful taking anything they say at face values.
Says the Vatnik without a hint of irony

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Michael Kenny » 06 Jun 2023, 00:49

Gooner1 wrote:
05 Jun 2023, 23:32


Says the Vatnik without a hint of irony
I warned you that they lie even more blatantly than normal Ukrainian sources. If you want to make a fool of yourself then go ahead and repeat their claims.
They are not in control of any part of Russia and you have to be really gullible to fall for such an obvious lie.

I mean how dumb do you have to be to believe a terrorist outfit who put out a fake film of themselves 'fighting in Russia and leaving the street name and number of the building in Chernobyl visible.

Link to Google Maps showing actual location

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.27287 ... ?entry=ttu
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Still of brave soldier fighting in Russia
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They lie and all who believe them are stupid.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Gooner1 » 06 Jun 2023, 01:20

Michael Kenny wrote:
06 Jun 2023, 00:49

They lie and all who believe them are stupid.

Says the Vatnik without a hint of irony

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Michael Kenny » 06 Jun 2023, 01:33

2 Western Wunder-Waffen left behind when the crews tried to hide but then ran when artillery spotted them

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Gooner1 » 06 Jun 2023, 01:34

From a prisoner but one wonders how a Russian army like this would cope against a motivated, well equipped opponent properly trained in modern doctrine.

"1/ Russia's army has been notoriously brutal towards its mobilised soldiers. One man who escaped from his unit and was captured by the Ukrainians have told of how he fled after his unit suffered 75% casualties, he was tortured by the FSB and his commanders abandoned him

2/ There have been many accounts in the last few months, generally coming from relatives, of mobilised Russian soldiers being imprisoned, beaten, starved, threatened and shot at for refusing to go into near-suicidal assaults. Now there's a rare first-hand account.

3/ Dmitry Karpov, a 32-year-old soldier from Vyazniki, Vladimir region, gave an interview to Ukrainian journalist Vladimir Zolkin after his capture by Ukrainian forces. He described how his unit was lied to and abandoned on the front line before taking massive casualties.

4/ He says that he and about 200 others were initially told they would be guarding a concrete plant in the Belgorod region, within Russia. Instead, they were taken at night to frontline positions in a forest belt between Yahidne and Kuzemivka in the Luhansk region of Ukraine.

5/ The men didn't understand where they had been taken. The driver of Karpov's truck "just dumped us in the forest belt and left." They had one officer, a company commander, but didn't see him after he was "dropped off somewhere far away" in the rear.

6/ While at the front line, Karpov was taken sick with pancreatitis. He was taken to an infirmary for treatment, and then returned to a frontline village, where his unit lived in an abandoned house. They came under intense rocket fire which only 21 out of 80 people survived.

7/ By this time, the rest had had enough and refused to fight any further. They laid down their arms and went to the military prosecutor's office in Troitske, where they were imprisoned for 15 days. A political officer tried unsuccessfully to make the men return to the front.

8/ At the prosecutor's office, 20-30 of them were imprisoned in a space measuring only 3 metres by 6 metres (10 ft by 19.5 ft). Then they were handed over to the FSB and taken to Zaitseve near Donetsk, where they spent a further 15 days being tortured by the FSB.

9/ Karpov says they were handcuffed to a chair and shocked with stun guns, with the FSB demanding to know why they were refusing to fight. The men were only fed if they had money; then they were taken to a shop every 2-3 days to buy food. Those without money starved.

10/ Although it was November and getting cold, the men were imprisoned in the open. They were handcuffed to the railings of a flight of outdoor stairs and left there overnight. After 15 days, the men were finally released.

11/ The FSB had wanted to send them for retaining at Novopskov in the eastern Luhansk region, but there was no room there. Instead, they were dumped in Svatove, which Karpov calls "the city of refuseniks". Previous accounts have spoken of many refuseniks gathering there.

12/ The men were given no shelter but were left to fend for themselves on what Karpov describes as the "mountain of refuseniks": "There is a hill not far from Svatove, and the refuseniks were sitting on it. You just sit under a tent made out of a raincoat and wait by the fire."

13/ One man decided he would go home and crossed the border, still armed with his assault rifle. He made it to his mother's house, but three days later she called the authorities to inform them about her son's return. They went to her house and shot him dead through the door.

14/ At the time that Karpov was there, he says the "mountain of refuseniks" was inhabited by about 40-45 people. Men constantly cycled through it, some leaving, more arriving every few days. They did not try to escape, as they knew they would be imprisoned or killed as deserters.

15/ Officers came to them to bring them back to their old units or entice them to join new ones with better conditions. Those who agreed had likely been worn down by the cold weather and lack of food or shelter.

16/ Karpov agreed to an offer from his colonel to go and build dugouts for officers. However, that didn't last – his regiment, the 346th Motorised Rifle Regiment, was disbanded, likely due to the casualties it had sustained, and its members were dispersed elsewhere.

17/ For some, this seems to have been a very brutal process – some of the men reported via their relatives that officers had shot at their feet to persuade them to sign new contracts.

18/ Karpov got away more lightly. He was taken back to Voronezh in Russia, where he was trained as a BMP-2 driver/mechanic. He was told that he would be driving on the Svatove-Kreminna road, a few km behind the front line (but still highly dangerous).

19/ However, he never got the chance. He says that although he was assigned to a mobile rifle regiment, it didn't have a single BMP, nor any other equipment apart from a couple of Ural trucks. Instead, he was posted back to a frontline trench for digging duties.

20/ When the trench came under fire from machine guns and RPGs the Russians manning it fled. In the confusion, Karpov got lost, and after 15 minutes of wandering in the forest he was captured by Ukrainian soldiers.

21/ Now, Karpov says, the war is unwinnable. "I don't know what Putin wants to achieve, but I don't think he will ever achieve it. No one is in the mood to fight." /end

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 01:47

" two French AXM-10RCs ", possibly abandoned.

https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3664222

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argues that the drone footage is not of leopard 2 but of AXM-10rc

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 01:52

so far the offensive appears to be conducted in a similar fashion to the ones in 2022, except with much less Ukrainian fire support. No tactical or organization improvements so far.

If subsequent attacks are weakly support by artillery and PGMs due to strategic shortages this offensive will be another costly grindfest that will not bode well for Ukraine on the negotiation table. The war cannot continue with very low stocks of munitions.

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 02:19

Russian MOD claims "1,500 Ukrainian soldiers, 28 tanks, including eight German Leopards and three French AMX-10RC wheeled tanks, as well as 109 armored combat vehicles were destroyed."

https://ria.ru/20230606/nastuplenie-1876336726.html

The 3 AMX-10RC matches the video.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 04:02

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Russian unit under attack is 60th Brigade.

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Martin_from_Valhalla » 06 Jun 2023, 06:12

At the moment Russian and Ukrainian media say Kahovskaya hydro electro station was bombed. The situation will be critical in five hours. Kherson is being evacuated.

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 06:24

https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/3672

"I am monitoring the situation in the Belgorod region, I am worried.
The Supreme Commander-in-Chief undoubtedly knows better. But I would like to remind you that the terrorists who invaded the Belgorod region could be dealt with by the forces of Chechen units. I'm saying this for a reason, and I'll explain.

To eliminate a gang on Russian territory without consequences for the civilian population and infrastructure, special knowledge and training are needed. This requires not only military experience, but also anti-terrorism. Such training is possessed by Chechen fighters who already have experience in cleansing the republic from the bandit underground in forest and urban areas, as well as experience in liberating almost four dozen settlements of the LDNR, including Mariupol, where they entered into battle with a larger enemy. These are regiments and battalions of the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the police, in particular, the Special Police Regiment named after Hero of Russia A.A. Kadyrov of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Chechen Republic, headed by the Hero of Russia, commander Zamid Chalaev.

In total, the number of Chechen fighters in battalions and regiments of law enforcement and military structures exceeds 70 thousand people. That's as many as three armies! All units were trained at the Russian University of Special Forces. Equipped with the latest technology, trained, equipped with reliable weapons and ready to carry out any order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief for the sake of protecting our state and our citizens.
That would be a good solution.

Therefore, we are ready and waiting for the order!"

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Re: news from Russo-Ukraine Front

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Post by Cult Icon » 06 Jun 2023, 07:27

The strike on Kakhovskaya dam has creating massive flooding, possible military implications.

Kyiv blames Russia for the strike while Russia blames Kyiv for the strike.

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