Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

[lartiste]

The chronology of the terrorist attack by Russian terrorists. Or how Russians screwed in their excuses.

At two o'clock in the morning, the Russians blow up the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, but they don't see how much. It's not very visible, but it can still hit.

1. The Russians still think that they have neatly blown up a small part of the HPP and are flooding our military on the islands. At 6:06 a.m., the head of Nova Kakhovka, Leontyev, said that the explosion of the GES was nonsense. Like, we don't know why the water rose there. Here is the link to Ria Novosti's http://archive.is/aTyK8

2. Russian OSINT intelligence community Rybar picks up the thesis and says a small area was blown up at 6:51 a.m. Link http://archive.ph/flapa

3. At 6:51 in Nova Kakhovka, they see that the dam is a complete ass, and the mom's stratagems start to realize that they are in trouble. The mayor of Nova Kakhovka abruptly changes his rhetoric and says there was no explosion, it was a shelling by the Ukrainian army. Link http://archive.ph/LFFKF

4. But the propagandists, who do not know what the fuck has happened, continue to work according to the methodology and continue to throw into the information space that the dam was previously shelled, and then it got a little tired and broke a little. Here is a post by Podolyaki's propagandist http://archive.ph/DgQIV. And the propaganda channel War on Fakes http://archive.ph/GRN55

5. Other telegram channels that cooperate with the military are happily hopping on one leg, cheering, because of the undermining of the Kakhovka dam, the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the islands are flooded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to evacuate and escape, and then they publish joyful reports of how they are hitting the positions of our guys on the islands. 08:25 Link http://archive.ph/c0iHL

6. Here, the Russians are slowly realizing that they have created a large-scale man-made environmental disaster, almost as large as Chernobyl. And they are starting to reverse. Russian influence on the information space is changing its tone dramatically. They instantly change their tune and start accusing the Ukrainian side of provocations. Like it's a Bankova operation A reference to the same "war on fakes" that said the dam had somehow collapsed on its own.... http://archive.ph/x8uwT
But even in their excuses, the racists still screwed up. Either the dam was blown up, or Olha was shelled with MLRS.... http://archive.ph/uF0Xm Although any sapper will give a hundred percent guarantee that it is impossible to make such destruction from the outside, the damage here was done by planting explosives

And then they are already beginning to adhere to this thesis, because what they have done is a huge international tragedy, especially in the environmental sense.

source: https://t.me/jurnko Telegram channel

translation:

Volodymyr Tretyak

https://twitter.com/VolodyaTretyak

[Tom Peters]

Given that the mods locked the main thread, maybe we should all take a moment to compose ourselves if this thread is not to be locked.

Mad Dog

[Michael Kenny]

Multiple reports on Russian sites of heavy attacks overnight. They claim they used their 'advanced weapons' (aircraft) to destroy Ukrainian vehicles. If true the camera footage should start appearing later today.

[Terry Duncan]

Given that the mods locked the main thread, maybe we should all take a moment to compose ourselves if this thread is not to be locked.

Mad Dog

This is excellent advice for everyone posting on this subject.

Terry

[Cult Icon]

Some Russian sources talk of the use of the self-propelled mining system "Agriculture" in the defensive battle in the Z-Oblast. Russian officials had previously visited the factory producing them. This system creates minefields from long-range and based on contingencies.

https://www.defensehere.com/en/federal- ... nd-systems

Also, the production and use of Tos-2. Unlike the Tos-1 it does not use a T-series tank chasis but instead is mounted on a heavy truck. The range is also greatly increased.

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tos2.htm

[Cult Icon]

After the failure of Plan 'A', I believe that the Russian general staff's behavior and the Russian army's tactics most resembles the risk-adverse Svechin- defensive & attritional approach to the war rather than the flashy 'deep battle', 'operational art', and 'maneuver warfare'.

Many observers have noticed that Russia's economic and political moves have been big and more effective than the military.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/p ... /N3348.pdf

Summary of Svechin pg. 7-11.

The Chief of the Russian General Staff Gerasimov is a fan of Svechin in giving politics and economy more weight than the military aspects. The opposite of the narrow minded Western/German ww2 obsession with operational art and tactical excellence. This is consistent with the limited tactical qualities and overall desire for low cost solutions of Russian units & tactics employed in this war.

Leveraging the old soviet arsenal, cheap weapons, separatists, proxy forces, an army of convicted criminals and PMCs.

In the Svechin approach, the Russians assume themselves the conservative stance. Supporting economic and political factors to sustain a long war are considered much more important that rapidly gathering weight and building expensive elite units with advanced weapons for powerful offensive operations. In the Svechin strategy of attrition, the defense is paramount and operations are characterized by limited aims to support the strategy of attriting the enemy to an unfavorable position while elevating one's own in sequence.

The strategic moves must be made to build up towards a 'final battle', where the decisive offensive to win the war will be waged, after leveraging political and economic aspects. This is likely the responsibility of the forming new divisions and other formations in Russia.

In this fashion, Larger scale use of so-called 'Advanced weapons' and munitions such as 9000 KG bomb that Shoigu was visiting will likely appear once Russian industry gears up to higher volume production in the medium and longer term. They are currently heavily focused on increasing the number of drones and precision guided munitions, as well as tanks/afvs & ammunition production.

[Empiricist]

Can people please keep all posts on this topic respectful to both sides in the conflict and to each other as required by the site rules.

Terry

This is excellent advice for everyone posting on this subject.

Terry

Are you kidding?

The best thing you can do is to close forever all threads about the war in Ukraine. Nothing more.

Have you ever had anything to do with always drunken Russky military rabble, for example in the WarPac-era? Are we supposed to "respect both sides of the conflict"? Are you kidding? Do you know what are you writing about? Are you serious?

Order "respect both sides of the conflict" to Ukrainian families from Stepanka, Pishchane, Lyman, Kozacha Lopan, Mala Rohan, Izium, Bucha, Kivsharivka, Trostyanets, Kreminna, Trostyanets, Skadovsk, Bilozerka, Novyi Bykiv, Staryi Bykiv, Vasylivka, Kurylivka, Shevchenkove, Borodianka, Balakliya, Chernihiv, Makariv, Kupiansk, Nova Basan –- i.e. families of tortured and murdered Ukrainian civilians. All these places are selected only Ukrainian locations of Russky war crimes against civilians. In all these locations people were tortured, decapitated, raped, or had genitals amputated and finally executed by Russky scum.

Tell to "respect both sides of the conflict" to the parents of raped Ukrainian 8-month-old and 9-month-old girls (cases in two Ukrainian cities) who did not survive the rape of Russky military scum.

Your suggestion in order to "respect both sides of the conflict" is like a proposal to respect the Waffen-SS of the Malmedy massacre.

[Empiricist]

Can people please keep all posts on this topic respectful to both sides in the conflict and to each other as required by the site rules.

Terry

This is excellent advice for everyone posting on this subject.

Terry

Yesterday the Russky army fired on a boat with people evacuating from the left bank of the Dnieper, flooded after the destruction of the dam in Nova Kakhovka. As a result of the attack, three civilians were killed and ten were wounded. A 74-year-old man covered the woman with his own body when the Russkies opened fire. The Russkies shot him in the back. He died as a result of his injuries, doctors did not have time to help him.

Respect yourself Terry "both sides of the conflict". You can't force anyone else to do it.

Regards.

[Tom Peters]

I understand your anger, but the people here are not responsible for the actions of the RU command. In my post I was suggesting a more civil attitude to the posters (not the RU command) to avoid getting the thread locked. The RU command is full of incompetent clowns.

Mad Dog

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"footage of the work of the 122-mm engineering remote mining system (ISDM) "Agriculture" in the Yuzhnodonetsk direction."

https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3678430

"View from the cockpit of the Mi-28NM for the launch of the LMUR ("Product 305")"

"https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_3678966

The terrible military performance (6/4- 6/13) of NATO trained brigades and Ukrainian strategic reserves against the motor-rifle reservists in the offensive so far once again highlights the important of soft factors, training, and combined arms over tanks and individual pieces of equipment with corrupt, overpriced cost structures, overengineering, and flashy marketing.

The Leopard 2s that cost 20 times more than the T-72 are just as worthless these past few days and many Ukrainian nato-trained & equipped assault troopers with expensive tacti-cool gear have been massacred in the fields.

[Terry Duncan]

This thread, and all others dealing with the Russo-Ukrainian War, is now locked as per the policy announcement at the top of the page from Georg_S.

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If anyone has questions about this, as usual with locked topics, should contact a moderator via PM and not by opening a new thread to do so.

Terry

[Terry Duncan]

This thread, and all others dealing with the Russo-Ukrainian War, is now locked as per the policy announcement at the top of the page from Georg_S.

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If anyone has questions about this, as usual with locked topics, should contact a moderator via PM and not by opening a new thread to do so.

Terry