Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Michael Kenny » 08 May 2023 11:20

Empiricist wrote:
08 May 2023 10:51
The Russky pilots do not have the courage to fly over Ukraine in order to use anti-tank missiles against Ukrainian AFVs. They fight like in early 1970s.

Quite so. Russians helicopter pilots are all known cowards..................


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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

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With the decline of Ukrainian anti-air defenses (S-300 missile stockpile is claimed to be 'running out' this month) plus the increasing use of UMPK to activate the FAB bombs it is likely that Russian air force will gradually play a larger role in deep interdiction. US claims that they have 1000 operational fighter and bomber aircraft that they do not use in the war.

"Chronicle of strikes and mutual shelling in the NWO zone on the night of May 7-8, 2023

▪️At night, the Russian Armed Forces carried out a massive airstrike on the facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of Ukraine. Several dozen Geranium UAVs and strategic aviation were involved.

Targets were hit in Kyiv, Odessa, Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, as well as Vinnytsia, Chernihiv and Zhytomyr regions.

▪️In the Chernihiv region, artillery and aviation of the Russian Armed Forces attacked Bleshnya, Buchki, Zarechya and Kostobobrov.

▪️In the Sumy region, airstrikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit the facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of the settlement of Glukhov. The positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the vicinity of Iskriskovshchina and Staraya Huta were subjected to artillery strikes.
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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Empiricist » 08 May 2023 15:54

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For a couple of decades Russia has been devoting much of its budget in developing its military.

This includes evolving such advanced weaponry as hypersonic missiles, Su-57 aircraft, Armata tanks and Terminator infantry fighting vehicles. Yet none of them have made any discernible impact in Ukraine.

1) Hypersonic missiles. As far as I can establish, Russia claimed to have used a couple of hypersonic missiles in the opening days of the war, but as they were used among a swarm of conventional cruise missiles, it is difficult to differentiate what damage they did. There don't seem to have been any reports of their use in months.

2) Armata main battle tank. The Armata tank was meant to be in service about 5 years ago, but none are in unit service. Russia this week announced that the Armata is being sent to Ukraine in response to the donation of Western MBTs to that country. However, as full scale production is still apparently not under way, it is likely that these will be a small number of pre-production vehicles of questionable reliability as the development programme is not yet completed.

3) SU57 "5th generation" combat aircraft. There are reportedly only a couple of dozen of these and they, too, seem essentially to be pre-production machines. They were briefly experimentally used in Syria a few years ago, but this appears to have been essentially a propaganda exercise. None seem to have operated over Ukraine. India has cancelled its order for this aircraft.

4) Terminator urban combat vehicle. There are apparently only about a dozen of these, so again they look like a pre-production run. They were reportedly used with some media fanfare in Severodonetsk in May 2022 but we haven't heard anything of them since.
You need to add all fantastic Russky stories, empty talk and primitive propaganda for the Russian dummies on the subject of the Russian A2/AD aka anti-access bubbles, aka impenetrable bubbles, aka no-go bubbles. These bubbles exploded and Russia is a laughing stock. During Putler's aggression against Ukraine this Russky mythology of their A2/AD turned out to be fantasy literature, like their "hypersonic" Kh-47M2 Kinzhal (shot down by the Ukrainians on May 4th, 2023) which turned out to be hyperbullshit, not "hypersonic" missile "impossible to shoot down" according to Russky propaganda.

In the night of April 1st, 2022, two Ukrainian Mi-24s attacked big fuel depot in Russian Belgorod town and destroyed it. Both helos were highly modified with the NVG equipment. Did Russian "A2/AD" react then? Never. The same goes for Ukrainian daring air attacks on the Snake Island. The same goes for hundreds of the other cases when Ukrainian drones do what they want over occupied territories and over Russia. The Ukrainian HARM-armed MiG-29s and Su-27s do what they want too with Russky radar stations both over occupied territories and Russia. The A2/AD? No, Russky laughing stock and nothing more.

At least one the newest Russky mobile ECM system was captured in ideal undamaged condition by the Ukrainian intelligence in the first three weeks of this war. Is it Russky "A2/AD" or Russky disgrace? The same slightly damaged ECM system was captured as well.

Russky air superiority over Ukraine does not exist. High altitude air combats over Ukraine? Low to medium-altitude dog fights over Ukraine under cover of Russky "A2/AD" (except early phase of war)? Misunderstanding. Russky Su-24s, Su-34s and Su-35s last time were seen over Ukraine 10 to 11 months ago. Vast majority of them were shot down by the Ukrainian AA systems without any international help then. Since that time every Russky Su-25 which enters Ukraine is shot down by the MANPADS of various international models and by the IRIS-T SLM highly specialized for shooting down helicopters and the aircraft in their NOE flights.

Who generated the A2/AD aka anti-access bubbles, aka impenetrable bubbles, aka no-go bubbles over Ukraine? Russia? Never. Ukraine. The Russian pilots terribly afraid to fly into Ukrainian territory because they know this is one-way-ticket for them. Western-delivered Patriot, Crotale NG, Hawk, IRIS-T SLM, SAMP/T, NASAMS as well as ex-WarPac (now NATO) members-delivered highly modified 9K33 Osa and S-125 Neva SC anti-aircraft systems are waiting for the Russian Federation heroes in their combat aircraft to welcome them in Ukraine, but… no one wants for a long time.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Michael Kenny » 08 May 2023 17:53

Empiricist wrote:
08 May 2023 10:51
helicopters recorded by the Russkies under the slogan of "Нет аналогов в мире" ("No counterparts in the world"). Primitivism of these helos is pathetic...............The Russky pilots do not have the courage to fly over Ukraine ipray and pray" mode like
As was pointed out earlier Russian pilots are all cowards who dare not undertake low-flying. The Russian do not have the courage or skill to do low-level flights...................



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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Yuri » 11 May 2023 11:47

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Ukraine’s Air Force commander, Lt. Gen. Mykola Oleschuk, says his forces downed a Russian Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile with a U.S. Patriot air-defense system. “Yes, we brought down the ‘unparalleled’ Kinzhal!…during the night attack on May 4 in the sky over Kyiv region.”
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This is a "Kinzhal".
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This is a concrete-cutting BetAB-500SHP.
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This is the mayor of Kiev Klitschko demonstrating a "Kinzhal" allegedly shot down by an Patriot.
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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Yuri » 12 May 2023 09:19

Dear comrades Russophobes and Super Russophobes, first of all I am addressing you, my friends.
Do you have something to say about who is the vaunted - "Kinzhal" or "Patriot" in this case?

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Tom Peters » 13 May 2023 00:16

Yuri wrote:
12 May 2023 09:19
Dear comrades Russophobes and Super Russophobes, first of all I am addressing you, my friends.
Do you have something to say about who is the vaunted - "Kinzhal" or "Patriot" in this case?
Opinions vary. Judgement is reserved.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by CogCalgary » 13 May 2023 05:13

Yuri wrote:
12 May 2023 09:19
Dear comrades Russophobes and Super Russophobes, first of all I am addressing you, my friends.
Do you have something to say about who is the vaunted - "Kinzhal" or "Patriot" in this case?
So the Kinzhal can circle the earth.Big deal.More opportunities to knock it down.People laughed at Trump forming the Space Force.Who is laughing now?The Americans are far,far ahead of China and Russia.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by lartiste » 13 May 2023 19:34

Yuri wrote:
12 May 2023 09:19
Dear comrades Russophobes and Super Russophobes, first of all I am addressing you, my friends.
Do you have something to say about who is the vaunted - "Kinzhal" or "Patriot" in this case?
There is nothing like russophobia, west does not fear russia and russians, we are just contemptuous of russia and russians.

And congratulations to success of air defense of Bryansk region. What a day. :lol:
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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Empiricist » 13 May 2023 19:39

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Tom Peters » 14 May 2023 01:37

lartiste wrote:
13 May 2023 19:34

There is nothing like russophobia, west does not fear russia and russians, we are just contemptuous of russia and russians.
Let us not sink into generalizing our contempt for the RU MOD and political leaders into hating the average Russian. They are prisoners in their own country.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Empiricist » 14 May 2023 08:33

Tom Peters wrote:
14 May 2023 01:37
lartiste wrote:
13 May 2023 19:34

There is nothing like russophobia, west does not fear russia and russians, we are just contemptuous of russia and russians.
Let us not sink into generalizing our contempt for the RU MOD and political leaders into hating the average Russian. They are prisoners in their own country.

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According to a new survey (January 2023) by the Levada Center, 75 percent of these "prisoners in their own country" said that they supported the actions of Russian armed forces in Ukraine.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Cult Icon » 14 May 2023 14:28

CogCalgary wrote:
13 May 2023 05:13
So the Kinzhal can circle the earth.Big deal.More opportunities to knock it down.People laughed at Trump forming the Space Force.Who is laughing now?The Americans are far,far ahead of China and Russia.
Not true at all in the case of China, besides their hypersonic missiles, drones, etc. they are rapidly closing the gap in the naval field. Their 5th generation fighters are on par with the US.
And they have much more manufacturing capability in the event of a war.

They were the 'real' 2nd army in the world, their yellow skins deceived the West :lol:

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by CogCalgary » 14 May 2023 15:34

Cult Icon wrote:
14 May 2023 14:28
CogCalgary wrote:
13 May 2023 05:13
So the Kinzhal can circle the earth.Big deal.More opportunities to knock it down.People laughed at Trump forming the Space Force.Who is laughing now?The Americans are far,far ahead of China and Russia.
Not true at all in the case of China, besides their hypersonic missiles, drones, etc. they are rapidly closing the gap in the naval field. Their 5th generation fighters are on par with the US.
And they have much more manufacturing capability in the event of a war.

They were the 'real' 2nd army in the world, their yellow skins deceived the West :lol:
What is the evidence that the Chinese possess accurate hypersonic weapons?A test vehicle missed its target by 10 miles last year and a stationary target at that.The Americans are playing possum.I have personally witnessed two of their tests here in Alberta in 2020.

Possibly the biggest advantage the Americans have is their sat system.And the Chinese know it.

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Re: Where are all of Russia's much touted advanced weapons?

Post by Tom Peters » 14 May 2023 16:52

Empiricist wrote:
14 May 2023 08:33
Tom Peters wrote:
14 May 2023 01:37
lartiste wrote:
13 May 2023 19:34

There is nothing like russophobia, west does not fear russia and russians, we are just contemptuous of russia and russians.
Let us not sink into generalizing our contempt for the RU MOD and political leaders into hating the average Russian. They are prisoners in their own country.

Mad Dog
According to a new survey (January 2023) by the Levada Center, 75 percent of these "prisoners in their own country" said that they supported the actions of Russian armed forces in Ukraine.
Of those 75%, how many are afraid of being thrown in jail for a politically wrong answer ?

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