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Finnish Demolitions

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Post by alpinoinMT » 19 Jun 2019, 22:01

I am putting together a Finnish WW2 Demolitions kit, inert of course,
after finding an actual bag with a few tools in it-
crimping pliers, tape measure, chalk & case, hockey tape [what I call it]
I am making inert dummy caps, fuse, pull igniters...
What I have never seen is the TNT or Amatol charges themselves.
Across the internet are pictures, evern dummies of US, Soviet, German charges... but nothing Finnish
I ask what weight charges were used, their markings & perhaps dimensions?
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Post by Mangrove » 17 Jul 2019, 16:38

alpinoinMT wrote:
19 Jun 2019, 22:01
I ask what weight charges were used, their markings & perhaps dimensions?
Based on after-action reports, 3 kg satchel charge might have been the most common one. The heaviest mobile charges I have seen records of are 20 and 30 kg charges used to destroy immobile enemy tanks in 1944.


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Post by alpinoinMT » 13 Aug 2019, 20:30

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Post by alpinoinMT » 13 Aug 2019, 22:26

Thank you Mangrove, indeed I am making a couple kasapanos, deciding on weights 3 kg eh.
But what I am asking are the type of charges, the 500gr or 1 kg "bricks" of TNT or amatol carried by the SA pionerrs, or Sissi groups.
No doubt captured
and no doubt German or Swedish? why I ask
and thermite?
have found these, some complete, some much less, no idea of weights though, or origins
"valtion ruutitehdas" "state powder factory"
I know this is an unusual request!
and sometimes Google translate is like a drunk 18 year old girl!
what does "Rotulle" or 'Rotulie" on the Vihtavuori label mean?
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Post by alpinoinMT » 13 Aug 2019, 22:30

this editing... I'm infantry eh... got potato on the ASVAB test
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 14 Aug 2019, 20:28

Some related SA-photos:
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From SA-photo 81905
SA-photo 81902 tnt-pala.2.jpg
From SA-photo 81902

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Post by Seppo Koivisto » 14 Aug 2019, 22:34

alpinoinMT wrote:
13 Aug 2019, 22:26
what does "Rotulle" or 'Rotulie" on the Vihtavuori label mean?
Rotulia (nominative rotuli) is a slang word for trotyyli or TNT.

Kanto-pommi (stump bomb) was an ammonium nitrate explosive developed in the 20's for blowing up tree stumps.
https://vanhojamainoksia.blogspot.com/2 ... -1928.html

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Post by alpinoinMT » 22 Aug 2019, 23:09

Juha & Seppo
thank you, for the most useful information & photographs
The photos of Rotulia AND the Kanto-Pommi come from a cache of Finnish WW2 military equipment found in Russia
Perhaps the stump bombs went to war?
thanks again

any & all information is welcome
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Re: Finnish Demolitions

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Post by Mangrove » 12 Nov 2019, 19:01

alpinoinMT wrote:
13 Aug 2019, 22:26
But what I am asking are the type of charges, the 500gr or 1 kg "bricks" of TNT or amatol carried by the SA pionerrs, or Sissi groups.
According to undated, possibly 1942-43, Päämaja document describing the experiences gained by "assault engineers": "Satchel charges are [made out of] 3 kg TNT charges. [They are] Made out of 1 kg blocks and tied with baling wire. The size of the charge is 20 x 15 x 7 cm. It is used to blowing up the embrasure and doors of a dugout."
Kasapanokset ovat 3 kg:n rotulipanoksia. Valmistetaan kilon kappaleista rautalangalla sitoen. Panoksen koko 20 x 15 x 7 sm. Käytetään korsun amp. aukkojen ja ovien räjäyttämiseen.
Anti-tank satchel charges used by Pioneeripataljoona 2 in early 1944 were as follows:
- 2.4 kg charge made out of 6 pcs. of Soviet 400 g blocks of TNT and covered with felt or paper. Equipped with a Finnish potato masher handle.
- 3.2 kg charge made out of 8 pcs. of Soviet 400 g blocks of TNT and covered with felt or paper. Equipped with a Finnish potato masher handle.
- 4.8 kg charge made out of 12 pcs. of Soviet 400 g blocks of TNT and covered with felt or paper. Equipped with a simple carrying handle.

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