Tero wrote:I did not forget them. I singled out the KIA because the official term is irrevocable loss.
Ah, sorry. You didn't forget, you didn't know that those WIA sent to first aid stations and MIA are off from the Company rosters
Juha wrote:I don't know. Do you?
No. Actually, I know of no company+ unit which the Finnish army lost in its entirety in encirclements or as otherwise overrun.
Actually your initial question was:
How many unit designations were stricken off the Finnish army force because of the formation was annihilated ?
I take it covers all unit sizes. So, again, Do you know them?
Juha wrote:Actually I've never heard of that kind of procedure existed.
But you know of the procedure where the High Command lists available units and their fighting capability when they are designing future actions ?
Yes, that kind of procedure I know.
Juha wrote:Well...I thought that the (high)casualties has someting to do if a unit is destroyed ?
I see here some progress
Tero wrote: But how many times did company size units "vanish" from the Finnish roster as a result of high casualties ?
From the little I have found about the events after the battle of Petäjäsaari 6th March 1940, the few "fit" surviving men from the strengthened Company that defended that island were after the battle sent to another unit. So I don't know which men formed the ex-Company or was it totally rebuilt.
Tero wrote:The POW exchange rate of the Finnish army was among the best during WWII so to list the relatively few POW's as a pertinent factor when determining the effect of them as a weakening factor of the forces is not really relevant.
The exhange rate has nothing to do with the fact that POWs were as much away (and off the unit roster) than KIAs
Juha wrote:Well...this brings us back to my question you did not answer: Is the criteria "not destroyed before stricken of the roster" just your own idea or do you have anything to back up it with?
Lets see: Can you list off hand any German brigade/division size units you know of were completely destroyed in encirclements and rebuilt afterwards under the same designation ? Then make a similar list from the Finnish units.
As you haven't been able to bring out any facts to backs up your posts, I'll take they just are your opinions.
About the off topic question, the answer (in your terms, where evacuated wounded, [like a´la Stalingrad], are not counted as irrevocable losses) is, I don't know units that were completely