Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer 1944
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Just several interesting photos:
1. KV tanks of either 31 or 260 Guards Tank Regiment are moving to attack in the Noviy Beloostrov (Uusi Valkeasaari) sector, morning of 10 June 1944. Heavy multiple rocket launchers firing salvo are seen in the background. The first photo has a good shot of a mine roller attached to a tank:
2. KV tank fom the 31 Guards Tank Regiment (tactical number 700) called "Suvorov" with infantry, June 1944
3. T-34-76 from the 1st Red Banner Tank Brigade (tactical number 154) on a street of Vyborg, apparently 20 or 21 June 1944
1. KV tanks of either 31 or 260 Guards Tank Regiment are moving to attack in the Noviy Beloostrov (Uusi Valkeasaari) sector, morning of 10 June 1944. Heavy multiple rocket launchers firing salvo are seen in the background. The first photo has a good shot of a mine roller attached to a tank:
2. KV tank fom the 31 Guards Tank Regiment (tactical number 700) called "Suvorov" with infantry, June 1944
3. T-34-76 from the 1st Red Banner Tank Brigade (tactical number 154) on a street of Vyborg, apparently 20 or 21 June 1944
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
More photos from the Finnish Archive (sa-kuva.fi)
1. T-34-85 from the 226 Tank Regiment (tactical number 908) lost on 12 July 1944 on the Vuosalmi bridgehead and towed by Finns:
2. KV-1s from the 46 Guards Tank Regiment (tactical number 660) destroyed on the Vuosalmi breidgehead on 16 July 1944 with its turret torn off by internal explosion:
3. T-34-76 from the 222 Tank Regiment (tactical number 501) destroyed on the Vuosalmi bridgehead on 12 July 1944:
4. T-34-85 from the 226 Tank Regiment (tactical number 912) lost on 12 July 1944 on the Vuosalmi bridgehead. The tank apparelty stuck in a ditch and had its turret penetrated at least in two points:
1. T-34-85 from the 226 Tank Regiment (tactical number 908) lost on 12 July 1944 on the Vuosalmi bridgehead and towed by Finns:
2. KV-1s from the 46 Guards Tank Regiment (tactical number 660) destroyed on the Vuosalmi breidgehead on 16 July 1944 with its turret torn off by internal explosion:
3. T-34-76 from the 222 Tank Regiment (tactical number 501) destroyed on the Vuosalmi bridgehead on 12 July 1944:
4. T-34-85 from the 226 Tank Regiment (tactical number 912) lost on 12 July 1944 on the Vuosalmi bridgehead. The tank apparelty stuck in a ditch and had its turret penetrated at least in two points:
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Thanks Art,
If you happen to know the SA-photo numbers, that would ease the tracking of them.
Anyway, here some more:
T-34-76 tactical number 507 and parts of some other T-34 (501?) at Vuosalmi.
SA-Kuvat/photos 162623 and 162624
If you happen to know the SA-photo numbers, that would ease the tracking of them.
Anyway, here some more:
T-34-76 tactical number 507 and parts of some other T-34 (501?) at Vuosalmi.
SA-Kuvat/photos 162623 and 162624
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
The series with T-34 No.501 are 162593, 162595, 162596Juha Tompuri wrote: If you happen to know the SA-photo numbers, that would ease the tracking of them.
That is apparently other location than on the photo with 501 as follows from the caption (the locations are called "Pussi" and "Karhu" TK respectively). I would suggest that the second tank ont he photo is No.509 from the 222 Tank Regiment.T-34-76 tactical number 507 and parts of some other T-34 (501?)
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Thanks.Art wrote:The series with T-34 No.501 are 162593, 162595, 162596Juha Tompuri wrote: If you happen to know the SA-photo numbers, that would ease the tracking of them.
Now after reading both (501 & 507) photo captions, that seems to be so.Art wrote:That is apparently other location than on the photo with 501 as follows from the caption (the locations are called "Pussi" and "Karhu" TK respectively).T-34-76 tactical number 507 and parts of some other T-34 (501?)
Also the landscape seems not to be a 100% match.
I based my guess to that at the 507 photo there was a blown off rear armour piece of a T-34,similar that also looks like to have been separated from 501.
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
The back plate of 501 seems to have not flown that far.Juha Tompuri wrote:I based my guess to that at the 507 photo there was a blown off rear armour piece of a T-34,similar that also looks like to have been separated from 501.
SA-kuva/photo SA-kuva 162597 from the 501:
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
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Yes really nice finds of photos, Thank Art & Juha. And with the list of tactical numbers earlier put in this thread by Art, so easy to identify the units.
And some more pics of what I have found on topic:
SU-152's somewhere on Carelian Isthmus
from here: http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.php? ... e__st__300
T-34 ”116” Viborg from here: http://wmc.kvaksiuk.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=888
More to come...
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Esa K
Yes really nice finds of photos, Thank Art & Juha. And with the list of tactical numbers earlier put in this thread by Art, so easy to identify the units.
And some more pics of what I have found on topic:
SU-152's somewhere on Carelian Isthmus
from here: http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.php? ... e__st__300
T-34 ”116” Viborg from here: http://wmc.kvaksiuk.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=888
More to come...
Best regards
Esa K
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
More...
T-34 Probably ”116” again in Viborg.
From here: http://isl.livejournal.com/458305.html
KV-1 ”630” in Viborg.
From here: http://isl.livejournal.com/458305.html
One more T-34 in Viborg, hard to see the tactical number???
From here: http://www.runivers.ru/doc/d2.php?SECTI ... AL_ID=6754
And, some more will come...
Best regards
Esa K
T-34 Probably ”116” again in Viborg.
From here: http://isl.livejournal.com/458305.html
KV-1 ”630” in Viborg.
From here: http://isl.livejournal.com/458305.html
One more T-34 in Viborg, hard to see the tactical number???
From here: http://www.runivers.ru/doc/d2.php?SECTI ... AL_ID=6754
And, some more will come...
Best regards
Esa K
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Thank you very much Esa for sharing these photos.
Regards, Juha
Perhaps not... the first digit is 1 but the second one... 5?Esa K wrote:More...
T-34 Probably ”116” again in Viborg.
The photo seems to have been flipped.Esa K wrote:One more T-34 in Viborg, hard to see the tactical number???
Please doEsa K wrote:And, some more will come...
Regards, Juha
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Yes, thanks for corrections.
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Esa K
Yep, see it now, second digit probably is five, and also the slogan is more in front than on "116" and also the second picture lacks the Red Banner order image.Juha Tompuri wrote:Thank you very much Esa for sharing these photos.
Perhaps not... the first digit is 1 but the second one... 5?Esa K wrote:More...
T-34 Probably ”116” again in Viborg.
And yes of course again, have stared at it and wondered why start the number with a 0. The 0 must be the last digit in the number, but to verify this, is the buildings in background also switched?Juha Tompuri wrote:The photo seems to have been flipped.Esa K wrote:One more T-34 in Viborg, hard to see the tactical number???
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Probably yes,Esa K wrote:The 0 must be the last digit in the number, but to verify this, is the buildings in background also switched?
Since the T-34 has it's driver's hatch and hull mg in mirror image; I assume that was a major clue for Juha.
Markus
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Yep, it was the drivers hatch that caught my eye.peeved wrote:Since the T-34 has it's driver's hatch and hull mg in mirror image; I assume that was a major clue for Juha.
BTW...
... is the 154 a re-captured one or did the Soviet side also upgrade their tanks by using German commanders cupolas (as it seems that such one is installed to this tank) ?Art wrote:
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
Yes of course. How could I miss that, maybe have stared only at the turret...peeved wrote:Probably yes,Esa K wrote:The 0 must be the last digit in the number, but to verify this, is the buildings in background also switched?
Since the T-34 has it's driver's hatch and hull mg in mirror image; I assume that was a major clue for Juha.
Markus
Think theese T-34's with the German cupolas is re-captured, maybe at the Narva front in winter spring 1944, the 1'st Red Banner Tank Brigade was in battle there then, so...? And have seen a picture (wich I now can't find back to) of some German T-34 tanks at Narva in winter/spring 1944 with the cupolas, so maybe one of those is my thought...Juha Tompuri wrote:BTW...... is the 154 a re-captured one or did the Soviet side also upgrade their tanks by using German commanders cupolas (as it seems that such one is installed to this tank) ?
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Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
And a couple pics on topic.
T-34 ”236” (or is it "238"?) from 152 Tank Brigade somewhere on Carelian Isthmus
From here: http://tankfront.ru/foto/ussr/tbr/tbr123-04.jpg
And the same T-34 ”236” (or "238"?) knocked out in Viborg.
From here: http://tankfront.ru/foto/ussr/tbr/tbr123-03.jpg
Best regards
Esa K
T-34 ”236” (or is it "238"?) from 152 Tank Brigade somewhere on Carelian Isthmus
From here: http://tankfront.ru/foto/ussr/tbr/tbr123-04.jpg
And the same T-34 ”236” (or "238"?) knocked out in Viborg.
From here: http://tankfront.ru/foto/ussr/tbr/tbr123-03.jpg
Best regards
Esa K
Re: Soviet armoured units on Carelian Isthmus in the summer
It is rather surprising to see tanks of the 152 Tank Brigade in Vyborg. My understanding is that this unit bypassed Vyborg from the east going to Tammisuo. Pay attention that Sapronov says that this tank belonged to the 1 Tank Brigade, yet I'm not sure that he is right:Esa K wrote: And the same T-34 ”236” (or "238"?) knocked out in Viborg.
http://www.tankfront.ru/ussr/tbr/tbr-f/tbr123f.html