Discussions on the Winter War and Continuation War, the wars between Finland and the USSR.
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Yeah, the Soviets "won the war", but still the "Finnish campaign" was a total failure and humiliation for them in 39, 41, 42 and 44. (not much can be said of 43 as practicly nothing happened in the front.) Theres nothing one can say or do to change that, and also i find "playing down the importance" disrespecting to say the least even to the hundreds of thousands of Russians killed, wounded and displaced by this "insignificant Finnish episode". Let alone all the innocent Finns who suffered cause of the madness of certain Georgian despot.
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Alex Yeliseenko wrote:
Pay attention to insignificant quantity of armies of Red army on the Karelian front.
When ill calculate just the number of Rifle divisions that Red army (32nd 7th, 21, 23rd and 59th Armires) used aginst the Finnish army i reach a number well over 45 russian rifle divisions. Do it is not as many as in Bagartion operation, ill could not put that kind of force as "insignificant".
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This artist's portrait of the mastermind of the battle of Ilomantsi, General Erkki Raappana, is on display at the Casino of Katajanokka in Helsinki.
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Objectively estimated: the logistic issues has played quite a big role for Red Army forces in Ilomantsi. Even more than for forces of Leningrad Front in Karelian Isthmus. At the end Finnish forces were too weak, exhausted and tired to really encircle and destroy completely those two divisions. After all with exception of Cavalry Brigade these Finnish units had fought 6 weeks without much rest so no wonder why they couldn't really make it. They captured heavy weaponry of course. Besides in Karelian Front there were always forest where to escape and withdraw.
"Military history is nothing but a tissue of fictions and legends, only a form of literary invention; reality counts for very little in such affair."
- Gaston de Pawlowski, Dans les rides du front