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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by peeved » 23 Sep 2015 14:05

Sturm78 wrote:According to this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu_S-21 Sisu S-22K was presented by Yhteissisu in 1946 and it was a civilian model...so I think the truck of the image could be a Sisu S-21 manufactured by SAT.... :?
According to Puolustusvoimien Moottoriajoneuvot 1919 - 1959 by Mäkipirtti the Finnish Military received 25 Sisu S-9s and 21 S-21s in 1943, 42 S-22s in '44, 27 S-22s in '45 & 21 S-22s in '46.

Moreover roundnose Sisus had been around from at least 1939.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Bill Murray » 23 Sep 2015 20:25

Hi Guys:

My apologies for my hasty and probably inaccurate identification of the Sisu vehicle.

Not a good excuse, but as I said, my source documentation was either in Finnish language books or off the internet.
As I learn more and more everyday, the internet materiels, even fairly official ones, are not always 100% accurate.

In any case, I think Markus has gotten us some very good information and it could very well be that the photo in question could be a an S-9, an S-21 or an S-22 depending in part on when the photo was taken. From what I have been able to decipher, most roundnose Sisus of that weight looked about the same even for some years after the war.

In any case, I found this chart listing supposedly all Sisu models from 1932 to 1958 and it shows the S-9 starting in 1938, the S-21 in 1943 and the S-22 in 1944. I do not have an English translation but maybe Markus can sort it out.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by peeved » 23 Sep 2015 20:53

Hi Bill,

And thanks for the table; The code to look for is KN (lorry, normal control) so at least SH-9, SH-9K, SH-12, SH-3H, SH-6KL, SB-18, SB-20, SB-19, S-21 & S-22 seem possible (assuming roundnoses were introduced around 1938 and since Sturm's photo was taken in January '44); Then again also BN (bus, normal control) coded chassis were finished lorries at times: e.g. some SAT-manufactured S-15s according to Mäkipirtti.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Sep 2015 10:41

Thank you for your help, Markus and Bill

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2015 14:38

Hi all,

Two images from SA-Kuva archive

150199 : Studebaker tanker
149652: ?? :?

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Bill Murray » 05 Oct 2015 14:55

Hi Sturm:

The truck in front is a 1937 Ford followed by what I believe is a 1939 Chevrolet.
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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Oct 2015 13:00

Thank you, Bill... :wink:

I found this image on SA-kuva archive (151609) showing a SdKfz 9 halftrack during a parade.
Were these vehicle bought by Finnish Army? How many?

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Esa Muikku » 06 Oct 2015 17:23

Yes, two, arrived in early 1944.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Oct 2015 10:49

Thanks, Esa.. :wink:

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Oct 2015 16:57

Hi all,

Any idea about the exact model of this aerosan ??

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Esa Muikku » 09 Oct 2015 22:51

MR-43

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by OldBill » 11 Oct 2015 08:22

What is going on with the vehicles behind the Aerosan? Why are they stripped down like that?

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Esa Muikku » 11 Oct 2015 09:37

Building of cabs.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Bill Murray » 11 Oct 2015 12:53

A very interesting and challenging photo indeed.
Three of the trucks look to be the same model, the one in the upper left looks to be different.

It seems possible that the three may be GAZ AA trucks, based on the wheels only.

I agree with Esa that they seem to be in some stage of rebuilding but the photo is strange in that the tyres look to be new,
the trucks all seem to be undamaged and the photo is said to be from 1944, a bit late in the series of Finnish Wars.

I really hope someone here has more information on this photo and perhaps some more photos of the same location and activity.

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Re: Finnish trucks

Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 Oct 2015 13:19

According to the photo caption the place is coachwork factory at Tikkurila.
So the company should be Helsingin Autokoritehdas aka Helko.

Image SA-photo 145768

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