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Post by Tero T » 16 Feb 2007 15:37

Great pics Bill !
Please send them through. As well thanks for the clarification on the makes of the earlier pics. Not being a automobile expert myself it is good to have someone who knows these cars. I am always interested in seeing the vehicles working during the war. Also the camoflage on them is of interest. Thanks again for sending some very clear pics. Regards Tero T

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Post by Tero T » 16 Feb 2007 16:04

Here are some more. One truck has tipped and many soldiers are probably offering their opinions on what should have been done! Interesting paint scheme on the fenders. Tero T
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Post by Tero T » 16 Feb 2007 16:10

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Post by Bill Murray » 16 Feb 2007 16:26

Hi Tero:
Your first is most likely a 1935ish International (tipped) with a 1938/9 Ford in the background.
The first bus is to me a 1935 Ford model, obviously civilian originally.
The truck with the Gas Producer is a 1940 Ford and I cannot ID the bus.
Here is a Volvo for you in Finnish service.

I assume you are Finnish based on the source materiel you are posting???
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Post by Seppo Koivisto » 16 Feb 2007 19:40

Here is a link to a video on the development of a supercharged charcoal gas generator truck in 1938:
http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=1&ag=7&t=321&a=02291

26440 wood and 16588 charcoal gas generators were produced in Finland during the war years. For trucks wood was more popular, whereas cars were more often fueled with charcoal.
http://www.ekoautoilijat.fi/tekstit/historiaa.htm

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Post by Tero T » 16 Feb 2007 21:04

Good Day Bill!
No , based in Canada but have acquired a lot of stuff from Finland. Nice Volvo and no traffic . Those were the good old days for driving! . Tero T

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Post by Bill Murray » 16 Feb 2007 22:57

Aha.
Maybe like me. In my employment with Volvo 1966-1979 I was posted to Sweden for two years, Peru for two years and Canada for two years. Picked up a ton, literally, of neat stuff.
Here is a Chevrolet for your thread, more to come as I sort out some files.
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Post by Bill Murray » 17 Feb 2007 00:43

Here is another. An old ebay sale, Looks like a 1938/9 Ford towing a small artillery piece
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Post by Fabi » 08 May 2007 19:00

Did the Finns also use Opel Blitz or GAZ and ZIS trucks for transportation?

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Post by JTV » 08 May 2007 19:35

Fabi wrote:Did the Finns also use Opel Blitz or GAZ and ZIS trucks for transportation?
Yes, all three. Germany sold Finland 790 Opel Blitz 3,6 trucks - 700 of them in year 1941, 50 in year 1942 and 40 in year 1943. During WW2 Finnish Army captured 5,247 trucks from the Soviets and took about 2,500 of these to its own use - this included some 900 ZIS-5 and much larger number of GAZ, which was the most common captured truck. The number of captured GAZ-AA trucks pressed to Finnish service was 1,428. Source for information: Book "Puolustusvoimien moottoriajoneuvot 1919 - 1959" (Motor Vehicles of Defence Forces 1919 - 1959) by Markku Mäkipirtti.

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Post by JTV » 08 May 2007 19:39

Bill Murray wrote:Here is another. An old ebay sale, Looks like a 1938/9 Ford towing a small artillery piece
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The small artillery piece in that photo is German 3.7 cm Pak 35/36 antitank-gun.

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Post by Fabi » 08 May 2007 19:53

Thank you Jakko!

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Post by DragunovSVD » 09 May 2007 04:10

Oi Jarkko, how can you tell that it's a PaK and not a Russ 45mm?

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Post by JTV » 09 May 2007 04:42

DragunovSVD wrote:Oi Jarkko, how can you tell that it's a PaK and not a Russ 45mm?
Tires mostly, tires used in German 37-mm Pak have the "razorback" pattern visible in this photo. Tire-patterns of tires used in Soviet 45-mm are different. The two have also some difference in size. BTW: What it seems that passenger cars were used for towing antitank guns mostly in year 1941 - it proved to be poor arrangement. During air raid spotting enemy aircraft in time and getting out of the vehicle was more difficult plus the whole gun crew (9 men for 37 - 45 mm guns) didn't fit to one passenger car. But the main reason for stopping this practice was different - passenger cars proved simply too fragile in poor Soviet roads.

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Post by Harri » 09 May 2007 08:19

I think some of the units withing Jäger Brigades and Armour Jäger Battalion were equipped with personnel cars. The 37 PstK/40 is good hint, but also Cavalry Brigade had these AT guns.

Like Jarkko told they were used only for a short period in early autumn 1941 and were equipped with trucks or captured Komsomolets tracked tractors.

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