Line of Mannerheim and sector of Summa
Line of Mannerheim and sector of Summa
This question might be to finnish users...
Do somebody know any history of ErillinenPataljoona3 (ErP3) in the sector of Summa... I knew that ErP3 was located near the village of Summa as fighting reserve... mostly they were Panzer destroyer reserve in the complete sector.
-joni-
Do somebody know any history of ErillinenPataljoona3 (ErP3) in the sector of Summa... I knew that ErP3 was located near the village of Summa as fighting reserve... mostly they were Panzer destroyer reserve in the complete sector.
-joni-
Er.P 3
There is a list in the Journal of Military History no:19/2000(Sotahistoriallinen aikakausikirja 19 / 2000) of the different units which have some kind of "unit history"(historiikki) or somehow cover the units actions in the Winter War.
I just checked and the Er.P 3 wasn't in the list.
Can't say I remember much about this particular unit. Started the war as part of the covering forces in the Karelian Isthmus, ended up in the 5th Div sector. The CO at the time of the Dec 1939 Summa battles was Major Mäntylä (IIRC).
If that particular area interests you, I recommend you start looking for "Summa" by J.Hakala and M.Santavuori. An excellent book with lots of detail info. I'm sure Er.P 3 is mentioned in the book, but IIRC the book concentrates on the 5th and 6th divisions.
Cheers,
Sami
I just checked and the Er.P 3 wasn't in the list.
Can't say I remember much about this particular unit. Started the war as part of the covering forces in the Karelian Isthmus, ended up in the 5th Div sector. The CO at the time of the Dec 1939 Summa battles was Major Mäntylä (IIRC).
If that particular area interests you, I recommend you start looking for "Summa" by J.Hakala and M.Santavuori. An excellent book with lots of detail info. I'm sure Er.P 3 is mentioned in the book, but IIRC the book concentrates on the 5th and 6th divisions.
Cheers,
Sami
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Re: Rokka
varjag wrote:Rokka - a well chosen username, I've been waiting for it.
Welcome to the Forum. Where's Wolfspaw?
I guess he wouldn't say much even if he was here. :-)
Hi!
I am planning to go to Military Archive in Helsinki some time in January and check out the war diary of Er P 3, as I need to interview a veteran of that unit in Vammalla, and before I aks any questions I need to know what the unit was doing.
with best regards,
Bair
http://www.mannerheim-line.com
I am planning to go to Military Archive in Helsinki some time in January and check out the war diary of Er P 3, as I need to interview a veteran of that unit in Vammalla, and before I aks any questions I need to know what the unit was doing.
with best regards,
Bair
http://www.mannerheim-line.com
Re: Rokka
Hi.varjag wrote:Rokka - a well chosen username, I've been waiting for it.
Welcome to the Forum. Where's Wolfspaw?
I am shocked (and gladly surprised) by your knowledge. You are Australian ??
Do you know who was the inspiration for Rokka in Tuntematon Sotilas ?? Truth is sometimes even more grim than fiction...
And same to Henric !!
Re: Rokka
Don't be shocked Mark - Australia is one of these modern 'multicultural' societies. In the days when I was a soldier 'Rokka' was our ideal trying to live up to. Even if we only tried. I didn't read Tuntematon Sotilas - to me it was 'Okänd Soldat' but having been suckled on Runeberg's Fänrik Stål, the message was very clear.Mark V wrote:Hi.varjag wrote:Rokka - a well chosen username, I've been waiting for it.
Welcome to the Forum. Where's Wolfspaw?
I am shocked (and gladly surprised) by your knowledge. You are Australian ??
Do you know who was the inspiration for Rokka in Tuntematon Sotilas ?? Truth is sometimes even more grim than fiction...
And same to Henric !!
Better dead than red.....
No Mark, I don't know who was Linna's inspiration for Rokka? But as we both know from Jutas, 'with such troops you can challenge the world...'
Rgds, Varjag
Re: Rokka
The forebild of Rokka was a soldier in Väinö Linna´s division. I think his name was Viljami Pylkäs.varjag wrote:Mark V wrote:No Mark, I don't know who was Linna's inspiration for Rokka? But as we both know from Jutas, 'with such troops you can challenge the world...'varjag wrote:Rokka - a well chosen username, I've been waiting for it.
Welcome to the Forum. Where's Wolfspaw?
Rgds, Varjag
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Re: Rokka
Well, like previously stated, inspiration for Rokka in Tuntematon Sotilas was Viljami Pylkäs - do you remember the scene where Rokka kills a squad of Soviets trying to flank his company ??varjag wrote: No Mark, I don't know who was Linna's inspiration for Rokka? But as we both know from Jutas, 'with such troops you can challenge the world...'
Rgds, Varjag
Serious underestimation: In actual life Viljami Pylkäs killed 82 Soviets alone in same situation with his Suomi-SMG !! They had to downgrade the actual accomplishment in attempt to avoid causing serious stomach ache for some of the viewers/readers...