I never really have believed that figure of "10,000 KIA" by some Finnish books comparing just about 500 Finns killed during those battles. It's little bit same with battle of Kiestinki during April-May 1942 where Finns and Germans claimed "15,000 bodies of Red Army soldiers counted". In reality there hardly was any kind of such body count organized. Just hastily made pure estimate. It reminds me of these modern time estimates demonstrations on streets where organizations claiming 100,000, police estimates it just 50,000 and those making professional studies having numbers of less than 30,000. We should always be critical when reading these body count claims. Remember Vietnam War body count?Denis1973 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2009, 15:09But at second message in this topic declared that casualties was 10000 KIA only. So this isn't true, are you agreed?ML wrote: Casualties of the whole 7th Army spring offensive were 12774 men, of which 3439 KIA, 8468 WIA and 837 MIA (figures by Juri Kilin, based on Soviet sources). So, the Finnish estimate should be total casualties, not KIA.
Thanks for the map - it great! What is the scale - 1 km?
In Kiestinki more realistic numbers given by Vjatseslav Nikitin (using sources TsAMO, f. 214 o.1427) gives losses of 26th Army 7,077 KIA or DOW during evacuation , 2,981 MIA and 11,801 WIA and sick. Total 21,859. And these are figures of not only Kiestinki battle (24.04-23.05.1942) but all losses of Soviet 26th Army during April-May 1942. And when likely 10-15% of losses have not been those of 4 weeks campaign in Kiestinki we can estimate Finns and Germans double counted Red Army losses. Same with Svir (Syväri) spring offensive if not even more.