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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Aug 2015, 12:29

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this naval gun ?? and the ship ??

Image from SA-Kuva archive (115335)
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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by peeved » 23 Aug 2015, 12:39

Dunno but, German uniforms... German ship?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by peeved » 23 Aug 2015, 18:04

According to https://translate.google.com/translate? ... rev=search Tender / Führerboot "Hai" (ex-Flottenbegleiter F 3) which would make it 10,5-cm SK in MPL C 32.

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Aug 2015, 11:56

Thank you very much for the identification of the ship...peeved

About the gun....I am not sure. I have never seen an 10.5cm SK L/45 C 32 in MPL C32 with this type of shield..... :?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by peeved » 24 Aug 2015, 12:29

Could it be the old shield type "Hai" had as F 3 for its 10,5-cm Sk L/45 C 32 in 8,8-cm MPL C 30 guns recycled?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 24 Aug 2015, 18:43

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F3 was the only one to be equipped with 105mm SK L/45 C/32 in 8,8cm single mount MPL C/30, but F2 also carried this gun during her career. Contrary to the normal C/32 mounts, the 8,8cm MPL C/30 was a DP mount, but didn't seem to satisfy, the normal C/32 mounts remained the main gun of choice.

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F3 returned to the shipyards in October of 1938 and underwent a refit as fleet tender until April 1st, 1940. Renamed Hai (Shark) (originally planned name: Königin Luise), she had a more massive superstructure and the second mast had been reinforced with two additional posts. Later in the war, the second 105mm cannon was replaced by a new 37mm twin, two additional 20mm singles on elevated positions were added as well. After her refit, Hai was assigned to mine warfare units in the Baltic Sea and also participated in escort missions.
http://shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3898

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Aug 2015, 23:02

Hi peeved and Juha,

I think the shield do not match with C/32 neither C/30 mounts.... :?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by vladalex » 27 Aug 2015, 08:37

F3 was the only one to be equipped with 10,5 cm SK C/32 in 8,8cm MPL C/30.
The main gun of HAI until April 1st, 1940 were :
10,5 cm Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak K. C/16 in 10,5 cm M.P.L.C/16(Krupp) with protection shield
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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Aug 2015, 10:47

Vladalex wrote
F3 was the only one to be equipped with 10,5 cm SK C/32 in 8,8cm MPL C/30.
The main gun of HAI until April 1st, 1940 were :
10,5 cm Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak K. C/16 in 10,5 cm M.P.L.C/16(Krupp) with protection shield
Vladalex, You have identified this gun in Artillery section of this forum as an 10.5cm Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak K. C/16 in 10.5cm M.P.L.C/16 (Krupp) but here you said that F3 was armed with 10,5 cm SK C/32 in 8,8cm MPL C/30 from April 1940...

According to photo caption the image was taken in Nov.1942

I do not understand this.... 10.5cm Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak K. C/16 or 10.5cm SK C/32 ???

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Aug 2015, 19:32

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (
I am not sure: 76mm 3in 20cwt Vickers ??

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 31 Aug 2015, 21:23

Nobody for my last images ??

Well, here another two images from SA-Kuva archive (131835-117858)

I am not sure: 102mm Obuhov M1911 L60 ?? ships ?? :?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 01 Sep 2015, 19:42

Hi Sturm78!

The guns are like you said 102/60:s and ships are gunboat Uusimaa and auxiliary gunboat Viena.
The 102/60 gun onboard Viena must be some temporary arrangement. because Viena like her sistership Aunus were later equipped with russian 130/50 guns (russian name B-13-P-S) captured 1941 in Hanko.

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Sep 2015, 23:52

Thank you very much for your reply, Pekka.

Any idea about the gun posted on 29 Aug 2015 ?

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 02 Sep 2015, 18:57

Sturm78 wrote:Any idea about the gun posted on 29 Aug 2015 ?
I think you were correct there, for instance judging by the wheel arrangement.

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Re: Finnish Artillery

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Sep 2015, 11:16

Thank you for your reply, Juha

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