Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by snake » 16 Jan 2011 18:04

Juha and others

I finished my diorama model would anyone like to see? i amn not that satisfied with it though but its good enough for me.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by larth » 16 Jan 2011 18:57

Please do!

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Juha Tompuri » 16 Jan 2011 19:03

larth wrote:Please do!
Yep!

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by snake » 23 Jan 2011 23:21

So here is the diorama with some trees, enjoy. And be sure to notice the "extra ventilation hole" that no doubt stopped the tank. I am not that good at this but it was fun to make. I amn using it to the game Flames of war as an object also.

Thanks to all that made this possible.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by John Hilly » 24 Jan 2011 11:42

Any possibilty to send it a bit bigger mode?
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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Juha Tompuri » 24 Jan 2011 21:46

Nice,
Thank you for sharing the photo.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by snake » 25 Jan 2011 13:36

John Hilly:

Even bigger than if you click on it, or dosen´t i work if you click on it?

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by John Hilly » 26 Jan 2011 12:37

Ragnar, I tried it the wrong way (right click), Sorry. :lol:

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Art » 15 Apr 2011 22:34

For fans of tank identification - here is a fragment of a scheme showing tanks and SP-guns remaining on the battlefield near Ihantala (from after-action report of the 30 Guards Tank Brigade, 7.7.1944, TsAMO RF, f.375, op.6683, d.19, l.115):
http://s53.radikal.ru/i141/1104/17/9b7cb2002fe2.jpg
From the text under the scheme:
1. T-60 - completely burned down.
2. No.455 T-34 - crewmen are alive, the hatch of the motor compartment is torn off
3. No.456 T-34 - crewmen are alive, no compressed air in balloons.
4. No.424 IS -burned down.
5. No.73 IS - crewmen are alive, vehicle is operational.
6. No.425 IS - the same.
7. No.1112 [1113 in the document] SU - damaged.
8. No. 460, the turret is penetrated, the tank commander is alive.
9. No. 312 [311 in the document] IS - bogged down in a marsh, damaged, crewmen are wounded
10. No. 211 IS - damaged, crewmen are alive and are in the tank No. 53.
11. No.420 T-34 - bogged down, crewmen are alive.
12. SU - damaged.
13. No.53 IS - bogged down, crewmen are wounded and evacuated.
Also there are two vehicles south of the bridge on the scheme, nothing is said about them.
I wound say that the scheme is rather approximate, and shows a relative position of vehicles in regard to each other, rather than their exact location.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by John Hilly » 16 Apr 2011 14:32

Thanks from the community as hole, Art! :D

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Juha Tompuri » 16 Apr 2011 23:14

John Hilly wrote:Thanks from the community as hole, Art! :D
Just to avoid misunderstandings - I bet it is "as whole" you ment.

Anyway, an example of AHF work at it's best.
Thank you very much , Art.

Here two photos from a Ihantala diorama at local Infantry museum at MIkkeli late last summer.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by John Hilly » 17 Apr 2011 10:07

Thanks Art and Juha from the community as whole!

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Esa K » 18 Apr 2011 13:01

Hi!
Art wrote:1. T-60 - completely burned down.<BR />
2. No.455 T-34 - crewmen are alive, the hatch of the motor compartment is torn off<BR />
3. No.456 T-34 - crewmen are alive, no compressed air in balloons.<BR />
4. No.424 IS -burned down.<BR />
5. No.73 IS - crewmen are alive, vehicle is operational.<BR />
6. No.425 IS - the same.<BR />
7. No.1112 [1113 in the document] SU - damaged.<BR />
8. No. 460, the turret is penetrated, the tank commander is alive.<BR />
9. No. 312 [311 in the document] IS - bogged down in a marsh, damaged, crewmen are wounded<BR />
10. No. 211 IS - damaged, crewmen are alive and are in the tank No. 53.<BR />
11. No.420 T-34 - bogged down, crewmen are alive.<BR />
12. SU - damaged.<BR />
13. No.53 IS - bogged down, crewmen are wounded and evacuated.<BR />
Yes. Thank you Art again for this very valuable info, highly appreciated.... Now, more to stare at, more to think about and more for me/us to evaluate...


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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Art » 22 Apr 2011 09:29

There is a later document from 9 August 1944 that describes the results of inspection of tanks by a technical commission of the 27 Guards Tank Regiment. The commission found out that 4 IS tanks completely burned down beyond repair, 1 tank (that was No.312 most probably] was stuck near the crossing, suffered much damage and was unserviceable. 1 tank had a failure of water and oil systems, and dents in the gun tube. The crew were near the tank in a dugout. In the night 11/12 August 1944 an attempt was made to evacuate the tank No.312 using three tractors. However they met a strong fire, one tractor fell down a slope, the other received a hit, so the attempt failed. It's probable that this tanks were evacuated and repaired after the armistice, but I don't have information on it.

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Re: Destroyed IS2 tank in summer 1944

Post by Mangrove » 22 Apr 2011 20:01

Art wrote:In the night 11/12 August 1944 an attempt was made to evacuate the tank No.312 using three tractors. However they met a strong fire, one tractor fell down a slope, the other received a hit, so the attempt failed.
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=3436314 (Er.P 16)

12 August 1944. 01.10 a.m. Noise from tanks were heard around Kokkomäki house. Later two tanks were observed approaching the bridge, the other apparently hit a mine as a powerful explosion was heard. The tanks turned around. The remaining tank drove to a ditch near Kokkomäki house and stayed there, maybe due of an engine fault. The tank was observed at the same location still at 10.30 a.m. The tank number was 125. Own artillery and mortars fired in the vicinity of the tanks. [...] 1 p.m. Artillery had scored hits to the tank on the ditch and as a result the barrel had bent down. [...]

14 August 1944. [...] 11.10 p.m. Closing noise from tanks was observed. A tank drove next to the tank which had driven to the ditch (no. 125). Movement was observed at the tank. The mission was to repair the tank no. 125, but for some reason the mission was not carried out. [...]
12.8.44. 01,10. Kuultiin H-vaunujen surinaa Kokkomäen talon luota. Myöhemmin todettiin kahden vaunun lähestyvän siltaa, toinen vaunuista ajoi ilmeisesti miinaan, koska kuultiin voimakas räjähdys. Vaunut kääntyivät takaisin. Toinen vaunuista ajoi ojaan Kokkomäen talon kohdalla, jääden siihen, ehkä moottorivian vuoksi. Vaunu havaittiin samassa paikassa vielä klo 10,30. Vaunun numero on 125. Oma tykistö ja krh. ampuivat vaunujen läheisyyteen. [...] 13,00. Todettiin ojaan ajaneeseen vihollisen H-vaunuun saadun tykistöllä osumia siten, että putki oli notkahtanut alas. [...]
14.8.44. [...] 23,10. Kuului H:vaunun surinaa, joka lähestyi voimakkaasti. H:vaunu tuli aikaisemmin ojaan ajaneen vaunun (N:o 125) kohdalle, johon ilmestyi liikettä. Tarkoitus oli ilmeisesti korjata vaunu n:o 125 pois, mutta yritys raukesi jostain syystä. [...]

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