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Indications on military maps

Post by igor_verh » 07 Jul 2011 19:22

Hello! What can mean these three symbols on finnish military map?
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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by Slon-76 » 07 Jul 2011 19:43

supposedly (by analogy with the Soviet maps)

1 - mortar (?)
2 - cannon
3 - AТ-cannon

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Post by Art » 07 Jul 2011 20:06

Slon-76 wrote: 2 - cannon
It must be a heavy machinegun (KK):
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2#p1481212
3 - AТ-cannon
Probably antiaircraft, hard to discern on this scheme.

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by JTV » 08 Jul 2011 08:04

1. Mortar. The symbol used for mortar FO team is very similar (small area in lower tip limited out with additional line).
2. Medium machinegun (Maxim and other similar machineguns with tripod)
3. Antitank gun. Sometimes used with a number, which would often indicate caliber of the gun.

The box-shaped things are most likely dugouts (korsu).

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by igor_verh » 08 Jul 2011 09:05

Thanks for the information! :)

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by igor_verh » 12 Apr 2012 18:24

Hello! In the Finnish reports I have seen two different types of coordinates, for example, x=3200, y= 9200 and 38.00 ; 34.40. How are they formed, there is bound to a particular sheet of map or point on map? How they translate into real coordinates on the terrain?

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by Swing » 12 Apr 2012 19:39

According to "Lyhennykset ja taktilliset merkit" book from 1941 (Abbreviations & tactic symbols) approved by E. Heinrichs: 1- 81 mm mortar, 2 - heavy 7,62 mm machinegun, 3 - anti-tank cannon. Sorry for delay, welcome for another decodings :)

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by Mangrove » 14 Apr 2012 17:17

igor_verh wrote:How are they formed, there is bound to a particular sheet of map or point on map?
The "38.00 ; 34.40" refers to the pre-war Soviet coordinate system which used degrees and minutes to pin-point a location. I think the other system is a Finnish system used in late-war maps. Besides coordinates you will also have to know the map page to which the coordinates refer to. To my knowledge there is not way to directly transform a coordinate into modern coordinate system if it does not use degrees but you will have to overlay the map into e.g. Google Earth.

http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=2979299 (a Soviet map)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=3082934 (a Finnish map)

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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by igor_verh » 02 Nov 2013 18:47

igor_verh wrote:How are they formed, there is bound to a particular sheet of map or point on map?
About soviet coordinates - from interrogation report of leut. Malahov N.V. (2./JR 132):
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Re: Indications on military maps

Post by igor_verh » 16 Feb 2019 17:35

Hi to all! Does anybody known, what mean triangles on this map and what difference between them (line inside)?

Thanks in advance!
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Post by John Hilly » 16 Feb 2019 17:44

igor_verh wrote:
16 Feb 2019 17:35
Hi to all! Does anybody known, what mean triangles on this map and what difference between them (line inside)?

Thanks in advance!
Artillery symbols. Line inside means heavy artillery. These all are battalions.

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