76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

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76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 13 Sep 2011 14:38

I found a bit of information about AA-battery of two Putilov 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi cape, Bay of Viipuri (2 km from famous Ristniemi 305/52 cannons). This battery took part in the Winter War. Can anyone provide detailed information about this battery? Thanks in advance

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by John Hilly » 13 Sep 2011 17:41

Swing wrote:two Putilov 76 mm AA-guns
Finland had two 76 ItK/14 PK (Putilov) AA-guns, one and only remaining gun of this type in the world is in Ilmatorjuntamuseo, Tuusula.
In Viipuri they formed the 3. Heavy Fixed AA-battery before the Winter War. After the mobilazion, it was renamed either 55. or 56. Rask. Kiint. It. Ptri.

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by JTV » 13 Sep 2011 19:14

Some info about the particular guns, their origins was rather interesting:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AA_GUNS3.htm#76ItK14

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 13 Sep 2011 20:20

Thank you Jarkko and Juha-Pekka! By the way, Lender cannon you can see in Artillery museum in St.Peterburg. A number of similar cannons were installed on big armored cutters (project 1124). One of this cannons from BKA-324 (sunked near Teikarsaari on 4.7.44) is situated in Koivisto.
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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by BarSeek » 13 Sep 2011 21:39

John Hilly wrote:Finland had two 76 ItK/14 PK (Putilov) AA-guns, one and only remaining gun of this type in the world is in Ilmatorjuntamuseo, Tuusula.
As far as I know, there had to be two more 76 mm "Lender's " guns in Finland. The guns were captured by Finns from Russian armoured gunboat "БКА-98" sunken by direct hit near Lunkulansaari 25.7.41. Both 76mm guns were salvaged from sunken boat and shipped to Helsinki in August 1941. Further use of them is unknown.

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Juha Tompuri » 14 Sep 2011 20:42

Thanks all,

A lot of new info for me.
A sort of a side track, but about the BKA-324 gun at Koivisto http://www.vbrg.ru/news/den_pobedy__nas ... _prazdnik/ - here a photo of BKA-324 from http://www.libertalia.ru/forum/showthread.php?p=69972 ... but where is the Lender gun mount?
At stern?

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Juha Tompuri » 14 Sep 2011 21:00

A bit strange coincident about this thread is that I happened to buy today a book about the local veterans of war (Valkealan Veteraanikirja edited by Pertti Kilkki).
There a veteran, Matti Kokko, mentions that he served during the Winter War at RTR2 at Ristiniemi at AA-artillery.
He mentions that they had there (near Ristiniemi, at Säkkijärvi section) two old AA-guns, more or less useless.

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 15 Sep 2011 07:29

Hello, Juha, this is a photo of another armored gunboat from Danube military flotilia. Tactical number 324 was indicated in this message: http://www.vbrg.ru/news/den_pobedy__nas ... j_prazdnik . On my mind it is a mistake. Two boats were sunked on 4.7.1944 - armored gunboat BKA №504 and gunboat BMO №505. I'll check information, see you soon

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by John Hilly » 15 Sep 2011 09:40

@ Juha
Putilovs were in Coast Artillery use only after Winter War!

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 15 Sep 2011 10:39

John Hilly,
There are memoirs of one of veterans in the book "Muistojen kylät : Kallolan ja Paakkalan kyläkirja, joka kertoo elämästä
Säkkijärven kunnassa luovutetulla alueella. Koonnut Kaija Marsio ; piirrokset Kirsi
Koskinen. Nummela : K. Marsio, 1998." He served at AA-battery located at Lapinniemi cape. He indicates two Putilov guns and talks about gunfire during Winter War. By the way, this weekend I'll try to visit this place.

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by John Hilly » 15 Sep 2011 18:21

Swing wrote:He served at AA-battery located at Lapinniemi cape.
Just right, AA-unit in the Winter War.
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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Juha Tompuri » 15 Sep 2011 19:26

John Hilly wrote:@ Juha
Putilovs were in Coast Artillery use only after Winter War!
John Hilly wrote:Just right, AA-unit in the Winter War.
During Winter War they served at Finnish Navy (Coastal artillery being part of it)

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 15 Sep 2011 20:28

Some adds to information about Lender from gunboat №324 in Viipurinlahti. This ship was transfered from Laatokka and sunked between Tuppura and Teikari (N60 34,7 E028 26,8). As many others it had no armored turret (tank turrets were a big deficiency during the war). Lender was a main gun.

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Juha Tompuri » 15 Sep 2011 20:48

Thank you for clearing this side-track.
Swing wrote: Lender was a main gun.
Like here?
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http://tsushima.su/forums/viewtopic.php ... 93#p311993

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Re: 76 mm AA-guns at Lapinniemi

Post by Swing » 16 Sep 2011 06:41

You are right, Juha. Here is a short story of armored gunboat №324. Arms: 1 х 76.2/30 Lender, 3 х 7.62-mm machine guns. Layed in 1940, (Zelenodolsk shipyard), since 24.08.1941 in Baltic Fleet, since 19.04.1943 in Ladoga flotilla. Destroyed on 23.45 Moscow time 4.07.1944 near Teikarsaari (mine explosion). Lender was lifted in 2009 and installed in 2010 in Koivisto.

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