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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 02 Jan 2015, 21:29

Sturm78 wrote:Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (48994)
Any idea about this ?? :?
Might be a rocket for delivering propaganda leaflets to the other side.

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Post by Swing » 03 Jan 2015, 13:01

Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for the radios ?? :(

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (48994)
Any idea about this ?? :?

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Looks like "Konstantinov's Rocket" - obsolete weapon of Imperial Russian Army. Attached picture is from Artillery museum, St. Petersburg
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Post by Juha Tompuri » 03 Jan 2015, 13:43

Swing wrote:Looks like "Konstantinov's Rocket" - obsolete weapon of Imperial Russian Army. Attached picture is from Artillery museum, St. Petersburg
Thanks, very interesting, do you know the age of the launcher?
I suppose originally designed for artilley use?

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Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 03 Jan 2015, 13:45

Use word "raketti" in SA-kuva search, you will find 50 photos of propaganda leaflet rockets.

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Post by veeteetee » 03 Jan 2015, 14:20

Better still, use "raket*" and you get 74 hits. In general, abbreviated words give more hits, e.g. "kranaatinh*" (447 hits) vs. "kranaatinheitin" (389 hits).

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Swing » 03 Jan 2015, 14:23

Ruotsinsalmi wrote:Use word "raketti" in SA-kuva search, you will find 50 photos of propaganda leaflet rockets.
On photo 56992, by the way, we can see real "Konstantinov's rocket"
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K. Konstantinov - Russian scientist and inventor in the field of artillery, missile technology, instrumentation and automation, General-Lieutenant. Konstantinov was illegitimate son of Grand Duke Constantine Pavlovich - the younger brother of the Russian Emperor Alexander I.
On the 5th of March, 1850, Konstantinov was appointed commander of the St. Petersburg missile factory, Russia's first industrial plant for the production of military missiles. Since 1864, he supervised the construction of Nicholaev's missile factory, and in 1867 went to Nikolaev for direct management of the construction of a missile factory. Russian army had following Konstantinov's rockets: 2-inch, 2.5-inch and 4 inch. In 1868 Konstantinov created new launchers, by which starting rate increased to 6 per minute. Konstantinov died in 1871, and rocket weapon in the Russian army went into decline. Missiles were used in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878 and during conquest of Central Asia in the 70-80-ies of the XIX century. Last time rockets were used in Turkestan in the 90s of the XIX century. In 1898 Konstantinov's rockets were officially decommissioned by Imperial Russian army.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 03 Jan 2015, 14:54

Swing wrote: Missiles were used in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878 and during conquest of Central Asia in the 70-80-ies of the XIX century. Last time rockets were used in Turkestan in the 90s of the XIX century
Thanks,

Just being curious, could the "Konstantinov's rockets" being the ones ensign Kivekäs dealt with at Pamir mountains?
Seppo Koivisto wrote:2.5. - 20.8.1893 Kivekäs was the commander of separate battle rocket section of Pamir mountain troops(?)

Oh, those Russians!
From 1866 to 1881, the Russians used a two inch diameter,
ten pound Hale rocket fired from rocket tube tripods called
"rocket stands".
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... 87/MAF.htm
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2#p1766365

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Swing » 03 Jan 2015, 15:31

Regarding Hale rockets:
In 1850 English merchant Nottingham offered Russian government the secret of Hale missile production and instructions on their use. Price: 30 thousands pounds. This was the second attempt of Nottingham. Soon in St. Petersburg began tests Hale vs Konstantinov. The advantage of Konstantinov's missiles was so obvious in terms of accuracy, and the Nottingham's proposal was rejected.
Two years earlier Konstantinov tested Congreve rockets an it's manufacture and blocked idea of it's use in Russia.
In 1851 and 1852 in Russia were released 2700 missiles per year, in 1853 - 4000 missiles, in 1854 - 10488, in 1855 - 5870 missiles. There were only Konstantinov's rockets. Therefore, statement about Hale missiles at the Pamir seems doubtful. Like "Popov's radio in US Army" :)
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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 03 Jan 2015, 15:40

Hi,

One tiny piece at the Kivekäs puzzle solved, thanks to you.

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jan 2015, 20:12

Thank you very much for your help, Juha and Swing :)

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jan 2015, 14:19

Hi all,

I think Finnish Tolfvan bombs but I am not sure about the models of these bombs. Any idea ??

Image from SA-Kuva archive (51368)
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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Jan 2015, 20:46

Nobody for the bombs ??

Well, here some images of Finnish optical equipment. Any idea ?

Images from SA-Kuva archive (54750-54414-54402)
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Observation binoculars. Oct.1941  54414-.jpg
Observation binoculars. Oct.1941  54402-.jpg

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Jan 2015, 16:44

Nobody for my last images ?? :(

Well, here another two images from SA-Kuva archive. Any idea ??

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Oct.1941  55293-.jpg

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 Jan 2015, 21:11

Hi all,

Well, here another two images from SA-Kuva archive (58310-55520):

Image 1: I think P-12-12 radio set
Image 2: I think P-12-6 radio set

Can somebody confirm this ??

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Helvar P-12-6 VREH (B) radio. Oct.1941  55520-.jpg

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jan 2015, 10:40

Nobody for the radios ?? :(

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (62064). I am not sure but I think German SMi-35 antipersonnel mines
Can somebody confirm this??

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