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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Apr 2014 20:40

Thank you very much for your help, Juha. :wink:
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As the SA-photo (5863-5865 and 5870) captions also mention, they seem to be the British 120 lbs bombs (for from Britain delivered Blenheim IV bombers)
I had never heard of a British 120 lbs (54kg) aerial bomb, although there is little information about the air dropped weapons used by the British during World War II in the net. :(

Here, another image from SA-Kuva archive of these bombs:

On the other hand, Can somebody identify this optical equipment?? :? I suppose it is a device associated with AA gun batteries

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Juha Tompuri » 16 Apr 2014 20:58

In finnish the item is a "tähtäyspylväs", a sighting mount perhaps in english.
It was a part of the fire control system, the sighting mount was used in finding the target and tracking it.
The mount gave the target movement, side and height angles that were transfered to the actual predictor.
The system also needed range finder and at some models a separate speed indicator.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... start=1035

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by veeteetee » 16 Apr 2014 21:50

As posted previously on page 1/2 "P.S. the SA-photo archive photo numbers of the photos would be interesting/heplful"

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Apr 2014 09:07

Juha wrote
In finnish the item is a "tähtäyspylväs", a sighting mount perhaps in english.
It was a part of the fire control system, the sighting mount was used in finding the target and tracking it.
The mount gave the target movement, side and height angles that were transfered to the actual predictor.
The system also needed range finder and at some models a separate speed indicator.viewtopic.php?f=12&t=133519&start=1035
Umhhh...I have several questions about this device.

First, What was the country of origin of this device? What model of gun was used with this equipment?

Second, I do not understand the functioning. I've always thought that the fire direction of a AA battery consisted of a calculator or predictor that could have integrated the rangefinder (as in the case of German Kdo.Ger.36) or mounted separately (as in the Kdo.Ger.35) and this predictor sent the information to the guns for aiming.

However, it seems that in this case this device served to detect and track the targets and then pass the information to the predictor, which in turn sent the information to the guns, no ?? :?
Did the Germans have a equivalent of this device in their AA batteries? :?


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As posted previously on page 1/2 "P.S. the SA-photo archive photo numbers of the photos would be interesting/heplful
If you put the mouse over the image and wait for the title appears, you will see the photo number at the end

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by John Hilly » 17 Apr 2014 14:37

Yes, but it cannot be pasted. So I please you to copy and pase it to us, if possible.

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Juha Tompuri » 17 Apr 2014 21:47

Sturm78 wrote:
Juha wrote
In finnish the item is a "tähtäyspylväs", a sighting mount perhaps in english.
It was a part of the fire control system, the sighting mount was used in finding the target and tracking it.
The mount gave the target movement, side and height angles that were transfered to the actual predictor.
The system also needed range finder and at some models a separate speed indicator.viewtopic.php?f=12&t=133519&start=1035
Umhhh...I have several questions about this device.
Actually I'm not that sure about the device. After checking some sources I think it might be a sighting/guiding mount for searchlight(s) and listening device(s) combination.
Sturm78 wrote:First, What was the country of origin of this device?
Might be a Swedish one.
Sturm78 wrote:Second, I do not understand the functioning. I've always thought that the fire direction of a AA battery consisted of a calculator or predictor that could have integrated the rangefinder (as in the case of German Kdo.Ger.36) or mounted separately (as in the Kdo.Ger.35) and this predictor sent the information to the guns for aiming.

However, it seems that in this case this device served to detect and track the targets and then pass the information to the predictor, which in turn sent the information to the guns, no ?? :?
AFAIK, yes
Sturm78 wrote:Did the Germans have a equivalent of this device in their AA batteries? :?
They used the captured French devices: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1545080

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by veeteetee » 09 May 2014 13:27

As for the use of this "tähtäyspylväs" please see "Puolustusvoimain uutiskatsaus 6" at http://www.elonet.fi/fi/elokuva/604727. The unit with serial number H7 is shown 9:36 and as can be seen 10:02, serial number H8 is painted on an AA search light. Thus, it is rather safe to assume that "tähtäyspylväs" H7 is connected to search light H7.

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 11 May 2014 19:45

Nice video, veeteetee !! :)

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 20 May 2014 12:50

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this device ?? :?

I think it is associated to a 75mm Vickers AA gun battery

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jun 2014 12:38

Nobody for my last image ?? :(

Well, here another two images from SA-Kuva archive (21070 and 21321) :

Image 1: P-12-8 ???
Image 2: Any idea about this radio equipment ?

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by JTV » 23 Jun 2014 07:24

Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for my last image ?? :(

Well, here another two images from SA-Kuva archive (21070 and 21321) :

Image 1: P-12-8 ???
Yes, as the marking indicates it seems to be P-12-8 radio:
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/antero.tan ... htm#P-12-8

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jun 2014 12:04

Thank you, Jarkko

Interesting link. A pity that I don`t understand the finnish... :roll:

On the other hand, three images of different models of rangefinders in service with Finnish Army. Any idea about the models?

Images from SA-Kuva archive (20435-20459-10475)
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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Juha Tompuri » 23 Jun 2014 17:46

JTV wrote: the marking indicates it seems to be P-12-8 radio:
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/antero.tan ... htm#P-12-8

Yep, and the other seems to be a American National NC-100A/XA short wave receiver.
One of the tools of Finnish radio intelligence.
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/antero.tan ... htm#NC-100
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ijl/national_nc100xa.html

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jun 2014 22:35

Thank you very much, Juha. :wink:

Any idea about the rangefinders ??

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Re: Id. Finnish equipment

Post by Sturm78 » 08 Jul 2014 10:41

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from SA-Kuva archive (21295)
Can somebody identify the model of these field kitchens? Finnish or Russian ?

Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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