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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by lupodimare89 » 27 Sep 2023 08:21

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 26 July 1941. Single Soviet bomber bombed coastal defence ship Ilmarinen at 3.41 p.m. near Bengtskär. Two bombs hit near the aft of the ship, causing multiple fist size holes above the waterline and destroying the interior of the saloon (salonki). The damage was deemed severe enough not to keep the ship in the open sea. There were 1 KIA and 13 WIA. Ilmarinen was operational again on 28 July 1941.
Greetings, this was connected (aftermath) of the previous small naval fighting near the island when sub.chaser MO-306 (ex-PK-238) was sunk by Uusimaa with 16 POW. Other crafts involved were MO-238, MO-311 and MO-312, and Finnish Hamenmaa, VMV-13.
Soviet claimed the sinking of a small “watchboat”, but i've no info if could have been some small craft at Bengtskär or simply a wrong claim.

For the air raid i previously noted 2 KIA and 13 WIA, with also Uusimaa attacked. It's possible the other casualty was onboard Uusimaa?

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 8 August 1941. While on patrol near Hanko, boats VMV 11 and VMV 17 were intercepted by 8 Soviet fighters. VMV 17 was damaged and lost 2 as KIA and 1 as WIA. VMV 11 lost 1 as WIA and was slighly damaged.
This was after an inconclusive encounter with MO-211 and MO-142.
Previously i also noted "Syoksy" and "Nuoli" as damaged too in the same strafing raid, but maybe it was unrelated?

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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by Mangrove » 28 Sep 2023 07:09

lupodimare89 wrote:
27 Sep 2023 08:21
For the air raid i previously noted 2 KIA and 13 WIA, with also Uusimaa attacked. It's possible the other casualty was onboard Uusimaa?
There are one KIA listed aboard Uusimaa on 26 July 1941 (WarSampo).

Here are some cases of Soviet air attacks against Finnish and some German ships in the Gulf of Finland and Lake Ladoga between November 1943 and September 1944 as mostly per war diary of the Office of the Naval Affairs of Päämaja (Merivoimatoimisto, SPK 20920):

4 November 1943. 15 Pe-2 and 15 LaGG-3 attacked Port of Kotka between 12.47 a.m and 1.16 p.m. Unnamed coal barge, tugboat Hel. LA 2 and minelayer Lieska were damaged. Three people were wounded onboard Lieska.

19 November 1943. 5 IL-2 and 4 LaGG-3 bombed and strafed liaision ship Pukkio north of Suursaari at 11.00 a.m. One 12 kg bomb fell down the funnel, breaking it and damaging the radio room. There were damage on the deck due to cannon fire, but no damage to the hull and the ship was able to move on its own. However, there were 5 WIA.

6 and 7 February 1944. During the bombing of Helsinki, Gunboat Hämeenmaa received a bomb hit on the aft, causing a leak. Minesweeper Tuppura, tugboat Melkki and unnamed barge sank. Motor boat VMV 12 at a roller dock received a direct hit and was blown in half. Civil Guard motor boat SP 42 and motor yacht Kaukomieli were damaged (SP 42 was operational again by May 1944). Unnamed minesweeper motor boat and a barge were sank at Suomenlinna. S/S Antares was hit, caught fire and was sank by Finnish troops at Port of Hietalahti.

16 and 17 February 1944. During the bombing of Helsinki, tugboat Susisaari was hit while at dock at Lonna. A bomb destroyed the decking.

26 and 27 February 1944. During the bombing of Helsinki, motor boat VMV 8 was destroyed, VMV 9 was badly damaged and VMV 11 received minor damage from shrapnel. Submarine supply ship Louhi got shrapnel damage on the hull and decking. Motor torpedo boat H 5 (Häijy) was damaged, with estimated 2 months of repair time. Unnamed Vihuri class motor torpedo boat also received shrapnel damage.

8 May 1944. During the bombings of Kotka, S/S Greta Thordén (2084 GRT) received minor damage in the morning while M/S Oiva was badly damaged in the afternoon.

13 May 1944. 16 Pe-2 and 16 La-5 attacked Port of Kotka at 7.50 p.m. German S/S Söderhamn was hit in the bow and took on water.

17 May 1944. 18 Pe-2 and 12 La-5 attacked Port of Hamina at 10.40 a.m. S/S Hektos (2108 GRT) was slightly damaged.

13 June 1944. 2 La-5 strafed two unnamed motor boats around 3 p.m at Ontronlahti at Lake Ladoga. Both boats were damaged and two non-commissioned officers and one man was wounded.

17 June 1944. During an aerial attack at the Vyborg Bay, motor boat LA-86 towed by escort ship Saattaja 764 was hit and sank south of Ristiniemi at 8.15 a.m. One man was KIA.

17 June 1944. During aerial attacks at the Vyborg Bay, S/S Esbjörn (1905 GRT) was hit and sank east of Ristiniemi. S/S Esbjörn was raised and towed away on 11 September 1944 and returned to service in Finland. Tug Veitsiluoto 5 was sunk by bombs dropped by PE-2 in shallow water near Häränpäänniemi at 1.05 PM. Minesweeper Narvi was hit and was towed to Vilajoki. Escort ship Kustaanmiekka and motor boats VMV 15 and 17 were damaged. Tanker Shell 4 was hit and burned.

19 June 1944. Escort ship Saattaja 763 and minesweeper Fersen were slightly damaged by machine gun and 20 mm fire from aerial attacks at the Gulf of Finland.

21 June 1944. 27 IL-2, La-5 and LaGG-3 attacked auxiliary gunboats Aunus and Viena at Vyborg Bay at 1.30 p.m. Aunus was hit by 3 grenades or aerial bombs on the bow and had to disengage to the west after 23 gunpowder charges for the 130 mm deck gun blew up. There was 1 KIA and 4 WIA (including the captain) aboard Aunus.

4 July 1944. During the battle at Teikarsaari at Vyborg Bay, Gunboat Turunmaa was hit by an aerial bomb, causing a leak and leaving initially 14 as WIA.

5 July 1944. Auxiliary gunboat Viena was hit by two aerial bombs between Tuppura and Teikari (initially 4 KIA and 12 WIA) at Vyborg Bay. The boat took on water and was towed to to the shallows.

5 July 1944. Tugboat Aalto was sunk by an aerial bomb at Ruokolahti/Mantsinsaari at Lake Ladoga 5.58 p.m. No lives were lost. 37. Raskas patteri lost motorboat "64" due to strafing the same day at Mantsinsaari at 1.30 p.m.

15 July 1944. Two A-20 and two La-5 attacked tugboat Luppi and an unnamed cable-laying barge at 12.55 a.m. at Risholm at Gulf of Finland. The barge received two hits, was flooded and towed to the shallows (1 WIA). Two A-20 and 4 Yak-1 attacked three merchant vessels escorted by Finnish Navy ships north of Kaunissaari at 4.02 p.m. No damage was reported and Finns claimed having shot down a Yak-1.

17 July 1944. Four IL-2 strafed an unnamed motor boat at 8.45 a.m. at Teppananniemi at Lake Ladoga. The boat was damaged and one man drowned. An IL-2 and two fighters attacked motor boats Muikku 6 and Rausku carrying 57 mm ammunition at 11.15 a.m. south of Sortavala near Riekkalansaari, Lake Ladoga. Rausku sank and Muikku 6 burned at the shore of Riekkalansaari. Two men were WIA.
Mangrove wrote:
17 Dec 2019 21:52
Photograph below is from Hannu Valtonen's article MaatstLeR 957 Laatokalla, published on Suomen Ilmailuhistoriallinen Lehti 2/1995. IL-2 and two P-39 strafed Finnish motorboats Muikku ("Cisco") and Rausku ("Ray") carrying 200 pcs. of 57mm ammunition at Kekrinlahti, Lake Ladoga at 11.15 a.m on 17 July 1944. Muikku sank and while Rausku made to the shore, she burned down. Two men were wounded. The planes also strafed and sank a rowing boat near Orjatsalo and Honkasalo. The rower was left unharmed.
18 July 1944. Two IL-2 and a LaGG-3 strafed and bombed liaision ship Porkkala at 9.26 p.m. at Lupi, Gulf of Finland. Two men were WIA and the cannon onboard was damaged.

25 July 1944. Six A-20 and six fighters attacked and sank supply ship Vilppula, motorboat PA-127 and minesweeper Mercurius at 2.40 p.m. at Träskö pier at Gulf of Finland.

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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by igorr » 25 Oct 2023 04:05

Mangrove wrote:
28 Sep 2023 07:09
8 May 1944. During the bombings of Kotka, S/S Greta Thordén (2084 GRT) received minor damage in the morning while M/S Oiva was badly damaged in the afternoon.
I have second name as OLIVIA +LEDA slightly damaged and OLVA also damaged. Perhaps later can be OIVA you named, or erroneus OLIVIA.
Mangrove wrote:
28 Sep 2023 07:09
13 May 1944. 16 Pe-2 and 16 La-5 attacked Port of Kotka at 7.50 p.m. German S/S Söderhamn was hit in the bow and took on water.
Söderhamm

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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by Mangrove » 26 Oct 2023 09:01

igorr wrote:
25 Oct 2023 04:05
I have second name as OLIVIA +LEDA slightly damaged and OLVA also damaged. Perhaps later can be OIVA you named, or erroneus OLIVIA.
According to the war diary of the Police of Kotka, two bombs hit near Hallman's warehouse near Kalaranta between 12.30 a.m and 1.10 p.m, damaging M/S "Oiva" and wounding six soldiers. There is no other mention of damage to ship(s). The war diary of Ilmatorjuntarykmentti 2 only mentions damage to "Oiva".

Finnish Mercantile Marine Database contains information about M/S Oiva built in 1931 (and rebuilt in 1958?) and registered at Kotka. There is no information about any ship named "Olva" in Finland between 1921 and 1987.
igorr wrote:
25 Oct 2023 04:05
Söderhamm
Interesting enough, the war diary of the Police of Kotka records the ship's name as Söderholm!

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Re: Aircraft vs. ships & airwar over convoys etc.

Post by igorr » 27 Oct 2023 03:42

Yes, i was wrong. Dinklage wrote name as SODERHAMM, but Lloyd Register say SODERHAMN and photo clearly shown your spelling as correct. Sorry. Also thanks for OIVA

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