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Sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka Question

Post by Laurance.Robinson » 25 Jun 2019 13:54

Is Sotamarsalkka designated a rank or is it a title? Also does it belong to the army or is it seen outside of the branches (similar to Generalissimo)?

Same for Suomen Marsalkka, title or rank? I have read that Mannerheim remained Ratsuväenkenraali upon the Officer Lists throughout his career.

Always grateful for any response and direction,

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Re: Sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka Question

Post by JTV » 25 Jun 2019 16:16

Laurance.Robinson wrote:
25 Jun 2019 13:54
Is Sotamarsalkka designated a rank or is it a title? Also does it belong to the army or is it seen outside of the branches (similar to Generalissimo)?

Same for Suomen Marsalkka, title or rank? I have read that Mannerheim remained Ratsuväenkenraali upon the Officer Lists throughout his career.
Hi Laurance,

Both Sotamarsalkka (~War Marshal) and Suomen Marsalkka (Marshal of Finland) were honorary titles, not official military ranks. Ratsuväenkenraali (Cavalry General) was a specified version of military rank with specification of service arm included into it.

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Re: Sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka Question

Post by Mikko H. » 25 Jun 2019 17:06

As JTV said, both sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka were officially honorary titles.

In General Service Regulations (Yleinen palvelusohjesääntö) there used to be a mention that sotamarsalkka was an honorary title that was bestowed upon especially distinguished generals. (It's not mentioned in the present version of the regulations.) When Mannerheim received the title of sotamarsalkka in 1933, he even had to pay a stamp tax of 4000mk!

In practice, of course, sotamarsalkka was treated like a rank higher to full general and Mannerheim, aided by author and artist Aarno Karimo, designed a new rank insignia. When Mannerheim was given the title of Suomen marsalkka in 1942, it was more obviously an honorary title, and there was no change in rank insignia.

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Re: Sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka Question

Post by Laurance.Robinson » 25 Jun 2019 17:54

JTV and Mikko,

Thanks again for your brilliant insight.

I do remember reading about the Stamp Tax and how he made a comment about luckily they didn't make him any higher.

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Re: Sotamarsalkka and Suomen marsalkka Question

Post by Seppo Koivisto » 26 Jun 2019 12:51

Wikipedia has a good article of Mannerheim's Field Marshal title.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_marshal_(Finland)
Two first Sweden's Field Marshals seems to have been born in Finland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... d_marshals

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