Leopard Company TO&E
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Leopard Company TO&E
Hello,
Certainly my question is way out of the normal focus of this forum. But my internet search has yielded nothing.
Here is my question, I am looking for any TO&E information on how the current Finnish Leopard tank companies are organized. Any help or websites would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Holidays,
Mike
Certainly my question is way out of the normal focus of this forum. But my internet search has yielded nothing.
Here is my question, I am looking for any TO&E information on how the current Finnish Leopard tank companies are organized. Any help or websites would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Holidays,
Mike
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
Hello Tanker Mike, a contemporary Finnish Leo 2 company consists of three platoons of four MBTs plus a HQ section of two MBTs, for a total of 14 Leopard 2 tanks.
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
Come to think I can't really offer any websites for further information. What is public information from various Finnish sources is that the Finnish Leopard 2A6s are deployed with
- Karelian Brigade, where brigade's three Mechanised Jaegr Battalions consist of one Leo 2 company and two (2) CV-90 IFV jaeger companies (of three platoons) each
- Armored Brigade's two Mechanised Battalion Battlegroups, where both battlegroups have - among other units - two Leo 2 companies and two BMP-2M IFV jaeger companies.
The peculiarity with Mechanised Battalion Battlegroups is that each of the BMP-2M compaies have four platoons of four squads, so it is my understanding one of the four jaeger platoons would be dedicated for close support of each MBT platoons: one squad per tank for keeping the perimeter safe.
How the older Leo 2A4s are deployed is not public information - and I have no idea - apart that there's two Leo 2A4 coys, one per Motorized Battalion Battlegroup of Armored Brigade, where each battlegroup has one tank coy and three motorised coys with MT-LB apcs.
Worth noting perhaps is that the Armored Brigade is a cadre training organisation, and it actually deploys these four battalion battlegroups mentioned: two mechanised, and two motorised.
As for the remaining Leo 2A4s, I have no idea apart that apparently there's a platoon trained each at Hamina War college, Kainuu Brigade and Jaeger Brigade, but whether those would deploy as separate tank companies or not I have no idea.
In addition to these, there's a number of engineering variants of Leo 2A4 with mine-rollers, that, as a guess, would be available to engineer companies with Mechanised Battle Groups, and likely with Karelia Brigade as well.
Land Forces do state they have still 100 Leo 2A6s and 100 Leo 2A4s, but that is all the detail they give: https://maavoimat.fi/en/about-us
edit: what a mess, isn't it. I still might have left a typo here or there.
- Karelian Brigade, where brigade's three Mechanised Jaegr Battalions consist of one Leo 2 company and two (2) CV-90 IFV jaeger companies (of three platoons) each
- Armored Brigade's two Mechanised Battalion Battlegroups, where both battlegroups have - among other units - two Leo 2 companies and two BMP-2M IFV jaeger companies.
The peculiarity with Mechanised Battalion Battlegroups is that each of the BMP-2M compaies have four platoons of four squads, so it is my understanding one of the four jaeger platoons would be dedicated for close support of each MBT platoons: one squad per tank for keeping the perimeter safe.
How the older Leo 2A4s are deployed is not public information - and I have no idea - apart that there's two Leo 2A4 coys, one per Motorized Battalion Battlegroup of Armored Brigade, where each battlegroup has one tank coy and three motorised coys with MT-LB apcs.
Worth noting perhaps is that the Armored Brigade is a cadre training organisation, and it actually deploys these four battalion battlegroups mentioned: two mechanised, and two motorised.
As for the remaining Leo 2A4s, I have no idea apart that apparently there's a platoon trained each at Hamina War college, Kainuu Brigade and Jaeger Brigade, but whether those would deploy as separate tank companies or not I have no idea.
In addition to these, there's a number of engineering variants of Leo 2A4 with mine-rollers, that, as a guess, would be available to engineer companies with Mechanised Battle Groups, and likely with Karelia Brigade as well.
Land Forces do state they have still 100 Leo 2A6s and 100 Leo 2A4s, but that is all the detail they give: https://maavoimat.fi/en/about-us
edit: what a mess, isn't it. I still might have left a typo here or there.
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
Well that is something anyway. Thank you.Panssari Salama wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 10:47Hello Tanker Mike, a contemporary Finnish Leo 2 company consists of three platoons of four MBTs plus a HQ section of two MBTs, for a total of 14 Leopard 2 tanks.
Within the HQ section, are there any other vehicles assigned to it? Any idea what they might be or how it would be organized? I am wondering if there is a service and supply section, or maintenance section or kitchen section, etc.
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
I don't see how this topic is related to Winter War or Continuation War. Perhaps a wrong forum...
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
It is not related. I was hoping to generate a discussion elsewhere or offline perhaps. Sorry for clogging up the information flow.Esa Muikku wrote: ↑28 Dec 2020, 01:25I don't see how this topic is related to Winter War or Continuation War. Perhaps a wrong forum...
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
As far as I know (and I am just a boardgame geek) that is it. The HQ section consist of Coy Cdr and his/her XO's tank.Tanker Mike wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 23:10Within the HQ section, are there any other vehicles assigned to it? Any idea what they might be or how it would be organized? I am wondering if there is a service and supply section, or maintenance section or kitchen section, etc.
There is a separate Engineer coy for breaching and bridging related capabilities, and a Logistics coy for logistics and recovery related capabilities.
To be fair he did ask for pointers or links but I can't think of any...Esa Muikku wrote: ↑28 Dec 2020, 01:25I don't see how this topic is related to Winter War or Continuation War. Perhaps a wrong forum...
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Re: Leopard Company TO&E
Sounds like a Team Yankee miniatures game composition?