Finnish Helmets !

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Finnish Helmets !

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Post by Rokka » 24 Nov 2003, 11:26

I saw some photos of Finnish Panssari-divisioona (Panzerdivision) a.k.a Division Lagus (Ruben Lagus) they have helmets which were painted as a skeleton !!!

but do someone know is it how common for them and where to find closeup photo of those motives !!!

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Post by Rokka » 27 Nov 2003, 00:46

Thanks Hans, yep something like that, but I saw photos where is bigger skulls !!! but because it was not an official insignia, there might be several patterns :idea:

Do anybody know why and when they started to paint these motives...

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Post by Hans N » 27 Nov 2003, 03:03

All i know for shure right now is that the unit i refered to (Kev.Os.4) had a Battalionbadge with the skull on it and i have one in my collection to!
But cant post any pics of it due to the lack of a digital camera! :roll:

But if i can find out more about it i´ll post it here :D !

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Post by macgoy » 04 Dec 2003, 22:42

Hi,

In a book that I have concerning uniform of WWII, it is written that it is normally an helmet model 35 with the insignia of the 4th Kevyt Osasto (light brigade ?) in the years 1939-1940.

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Post by JTV » 05 Dec 2003, 09:27

macgoy wrote:Hi,

In a book that I have concerning uniform of WWII, it is written that it is normally an helmet model 35 with the insignia of the 4th Kevyt Osasto (light brigade ?) in the years 1939-1940.

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Mac
Unfortunately that information is partly false. Kevyt Osasto 4 (Light Detachment 4) did use the insignia, but the helmets were not model 35. What I have read Finland tried to purchase model 35 helmets from Germany just before Winter War, but with no success.

The helmets Finnish troops used during Winter War (1939 - 1940) were German and Austrian M/16, M/17 and M/18. Finland had bought about 80,000 of these helmets in 1920's. What I remember from original the helmets of Kevyt Osasto 4 look like those WW1-era Austrian or German helmets. Helmets were one of the multitude of items, which the Finns had shortage during that war. So Finland ordered some 75,000 Hungarian M/38 (design based to German M/35, so they look very similar) from Hungary at February of 1940. First delivery of the Hungarian helmets arrived already that same month, so at least some of them got used in Winter War.

The Finns acquired some 25,000 German M/35-40 and M/35-42 helmets, but that was not until summer of 1943.

BTW: In General Finnish helmets were a quite a mized bunch. The other helmets used in Finland during WW2 included:
- Swedish M/21
- Swedish improved M/21
- Italian M/33
- Czech M/34
- Swedish M/37
- Finnish M/40 (licensed copy of Swedish M/37)
- Soviet M/40 (captured, only at homefront use)
There were some effert trying to equip each frontline unit with helmets of same model. But it was not unusual (especially for non-frontline units) to have mix of helmets, so that same squad or gun crew could have even 3 - 4 kind of helmets.

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