Aleksei22 wrote:
John, i can post you a photo of only one epizode
of well-known herring-war between UK and
Iceland if you would post me official "Norway or Denmark"
demands (notes ) to rearrange sea borders of those states
in 1924-1938. + War-Ship Demonstrations too ...
Think that will lead us off topic.
Aleksei22 wrote:
Thank you. Its very important detail too espesially within Germany
arms racing. Re. Germany "solved problems of Leaque of Nations" while
all Scandinavia refused to use its paragraph 16 trade-restriction
provisions.
I am not familiar with paragraph 16,
I remember that LN blockade against Italys involvment in Abbesinia failed miserably.
Aleksei22 wrote:
John T wrote:
I have not seen any thing that supports that he in peace time
intended offensive operations against USSR.
It was very HARD ( to USSR government ) to make a detailed
tracing of his "intentions" in 1937-1939, but current situation
(arms-racing ) and his "business"
in 1918-1920 ( Order of the Day, Letter of War, restitution demands, etc )
- were well-known. Informed ( USSR government ) must made
conclusions. Thats was done ( negotiations ). Finn' total
ignorance responce - known too. "Windows of opportunities" was closed.
Unique alternative to it - known ( to both sides ) too .....
One way is to ask each party was is unacceptable and then see if both parties could live with what the other side considered essential.
So USSR could state that they did not axcept Foreign troops in Finland.
The Finns stated they did not want to move the borders.
The finns demand where obviously not acceptable for USSR thus the winter war.
Aleksei22 wrote:
John T wrote:
When the democratic FInnish Cabinet descided taht they would
not back down in 39, Manerheim had to adjust.
How we can coinside German-Finnish-Barbarossa-Alliance with Great-Finland ???
Winter-war ??? or Order of the Day ( 15 of march 1918 ) ????
I Still belive USSR started the winter war, I have no evidence of a German-Finnish-Barbarossa-Alliance before the summer of 1940.
The civil war was a war and what is printed as propaganda do not have to be the policy for a democratically elected Cabinet twenty years later.
Aleksei22 wrote:
let see below some GENERAL remarks and refferences
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To me that is natural part of capitalistic world, the countrys capacity to free cash, to buy industry to build guns.
Capital resources are as far as I understands it in a macroeconomical perspective, that is state owned property, gold reserves and incomes from taxation.
You need means of production(industries) to build arms and the most common way to create production is to buy industries.
Aleksei22 wrote:
. wrote:
http://www.elginhistory.com/eaah/eaah-ch08.htm
4. The Local Arsenal
The
Depression ended with the increased expenditures
for national defense that followed the outbreak of war
in Europe. Late in April 1940, the Elgin National Watch
Company received a War Department contract for developing
equipment and a production plan for mechanical time fuses.
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Yes, and some cities in Ural grew during WW2 too.
Do not see the connection with the origin of the winter war.
UNLESS - US capitalist where able to influence Stalin to make demands ono Finland taht Finland did not tolerate and found unacceptable.
Aleksei22 wrote:
Did USSR wanted to "consume" Finland ( after WW ) ???
Why USSR "returned" Petsamo to Finlang Again ????
Thank you.
IFAIK Post WW2, The soviet Union was quite content that Finland paid her debts, keept shut in International affairs and minded her own bussines. a situation
I think Stalin/Molotov could have reached that result without the winter war.
The only thing that was required where some mutual respect.
Not Taking Petsamo in 1940 was a start, if USSR had actively supported Swedish-Finnish cooperation and made it shure that the thing that was totaly unacceptable where foreign troops on Finnish soil the Finns who was opposed of leaning towards Germany whould have had a much easier job.
Cheers
/John T.