- It makes perfect sense because IT TOO had an effect on the high number of dead %-wise. And its the % which the Soviet's like to bring up, not the TOTAL number of dead (which is in the 17 million a drop in the bucket).LeoAU wrote: You do make a perfect sence on this one, or should I say a perfect excuse.
Given time, they would have, everybody dies.LeoAU wrote: I was always wondering what happened to those some 17mln Soviet citizens killed by German and Finnish and Co occupiers! Now I know, they would've died any way!
More seriously, take into account that the normal death rate DOES exist on war time as well. Of course the problems with food supply DID increase it even further, of which a great part of the blame does indeed belong to the occupiers, but the whole Finnish nation was suffering from food problems. The Soviet Karelia was, in its southern parts, self-sustaining in terms of food (can't remember though was it just 'grains' or total food output) for 5 months per anno, and in its northern parts just 3 months.
Consider this: Had the Finns allowed the people to return homes (ie. many would've returned to empty & burnt villages), in a terrain where there are few roads and population density is low. There simply was NO logistical capacity in the Finnish Army of distributing the food supplies it had reserved for the local civilians, had they not been concentrated in some way.
Had there not been any 'concentration', the civilian casualties due to the effects of the war had been far more severe in the following (1941-1942) winter than they were.
I never said they didn't have, every side has, its ignorance to even try to say otherwise. Some just have more than others.LeoAU wrote:I'll take it as the acceptance of the fact that human Finnish soldiers do have some innocent blood on their hands.
If you don't know about it, blame your ignorance.LeoAU wrote:So-called scorched earth tactics hardly existed back at that time!
This comment is SO ignorant, that I refrain from answering... do some basic research.LeoAU wrote:Had USSR NOT feeled threathened by Finland and its potential allies (exactly how it happened - Finland joined Germany), there would be no Winter war etc.
"Finland and its potential allies"? I see, so it was Finland which planned to invade and conquer USSR and managed to lure Hitler to be its ally in the attempt?
Really, you give the Finnish standing army of the pre-war years (app. 27,000 strong) WAY too much credit.
Seriously, you think 'how it happened' had nothing to do what the USSR did in 1939???
I think Tiwaz already covered that.What? Kiss principle?