Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Slon-76 » 20 Nov 2016 15:20

Thank you! Your website is the most useful thing is on the Internet about the Finnish army (not counting the KA-website)

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by karjala » 23 Nov 2016 05:17

JTV wrote:New update is now finally ready and online. The new main content is railway guns page, which can be found here:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/RAILWAY_GUNS.htm
Thank you, Jarkko!
I read the article - to collect the most complete information about the Finnish railway gun.

TM-1-180 at the memorial "fort Krasnaya gorka" - one of the two captured in Metsäjkula August 31, 1941.
Number of his guns - 102.
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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 12 Dec 2016 06:03

karjala wrote: TM-1-180 at the memorial "fort Krasnaya gorka" - one of the two captured in Metsäjkula August 31, 1941.
Number of his guns - 102.
Thanks! Is that info about number 102 being now in Krasnaja Gorka based to personal observation or based to information found somewhere?

Jarkko

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by karjala » 23 Dec 2016 01:33

JTV wrote:
karjala wrote: TM-1-180 at the memorial "fort Krasnaya gorka" - one of the two captured in Metsäjkula August 31, 1941.
Number of his guns - 102.
Thanks! Is that info about number 102 being now in Krasnaja Gorka based to personal observation or based to information found somewhere?

Jarkko

Hello, Jarkko!

Number 102 stamped on the breech. If you want for your article - II can take a photo.

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 27 Dec 2016 19:37

karjala wrote:
Number 102 stamped on the breech. If you want for your article - II can take a photo.
If you can, I would appreciate it!!

BTW: Have you seen anything about Soviets possibly experiencing problems with loading system of TM-1-180? I am asking because "Aselevon jälkeen" (After the Armistice) by Niilo Lappalainen suggests that they may have had some problems with it.

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 18 Mar 2018 19:52

A long time has passed since the last update, but finally I have new stuff on the website.

The new subject matter started with this update is Finnish military uniforms. It contains three pages that cover military uniforms of Finnish Civil War, their further development, first properly standardized military uniform (m/22) and field unifom m/27 which proved to be both failure and a success in various ways.

The new pages can be found here: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/UNIFORMS0.htm

And the main page in here: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by CanKiwi2 » 24 Mar 2018 23:43

Looks like I have some catching up to do :D
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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 08 Dec 2018 19:09

I just updated the website. New content published this time is two new pages, which are about military uniform m/36 (the standard uniform model of Finnish military during World War 2) and about military uniforms used by Finnish military during World War 2 in general.

The new pages can be found here: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/UNIFORMS0.htm

As usual the main page of the website is in here: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Marsalkka Mahtimeisseli » 09 Dec 2018 10:52

Christmas came a few weeks early this year :thumbsup:

I think your website is one of the best encyclopedia-like websites in the internet, and it's always a joy to see a new update in there. It has been a delight to see 3 updates this year, since there wasn't any last year and only about once a year for a few years before that.

One thing I'm pondering about the last update: You mention in the text that when the "additional refresher exercises" began, the Finnish Army had about 190,000 military uniforms, 160,000 pairs of footwear and a 60% shortage of greatcoats, so about 110,000 greatcoats put together. Those numbers quite a bit different from the numbers "Sallan sunnan taistelut" booklet (page 49) gives for the amount of clothing when the Winter War started. The booklet gives about twice the numbers you mentioned. Did the amount of clothing almost double while the additional refresher exercises were had for almost 2 months? Or does something else explain the difference between the numbers?

I'm excited to wait what you will provide in the next update for your website.

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 09 Dec 2018 20:40

Thanks Marsalkka Mahtimeisseli, I have to look into this. The percentages for shortages in starting of YH-mobilisation and info about 160,000 pairs of footwear being in inventory at that time are from Puolustusvoimien huolto 1918 - 1986 age 661. I have to dig deeper into my notes to figure out the source I had for number of 190,000 military uniforms. It is worth noting that the planned inventory must have included certain percentage of equipment reserved for replacing damaged clothing, so they are not direct percentages from mobilisation strength (340,000).

As for what will be in the next update, I am not quite sure yet. I do have most of the notes already ready for the next to pages (one for Navy uniforms and second for Civil Guard & Lotta Svärd), but on the other hand it would be refreshing to write about something other than the uniforms for a while. The obvious other option would be Landsverk Anti II antiaircraft-tank.

BTW: The link for pdf-file in your message does not seem to work.

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Marsalkka Mahtimeisseli » 09 Dec 2018 22:14

Strangely the .pdf file I mentioned can be accessed if you copy-paste the URL (www.doria.fi/bitstream/10024/77492/1/Pe ... stelut.pdf) to the address bar. The direct link in the forum just seems to cause problems. If you didn't see the file, it sitates Suomen puolustuslaitos 1918–1939 book as it's source.

One thing I thought was if your numbers only included the M/36 uniforms, since those were the standard issue. It would kinda make sense, since if there were around 190,000 complete (tunic+pants) M/36 uniforms and 110,000 M/36 greatcoats, the 317,267 tunics and 219,864 greatcoats mentioned in the booklet would also include the M/22 and M/27 uniforms. By your numbers, there were around 1.7 tunics for every greatcoat, while the number of tunics per greatcoat in that booklet would be around 1.4, and that would make sense, since the wear and tear would reduce the number of obsolete tunics much greater than the number of obsolete greatcoats. But that's just my guesswork, you have much greater sources than I do.

The article I'm hoping for most in you site is about the hand grenades in Finnish use, since I don't have any good sources of that topic. I saw your message about the problems with the research support services of Finnish Museum, so it seems that topic may not be the next on the line. But whatever topic you may write about, I'm happy to read it.

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Levallois » 11 Dec 2018 02:36

Jarkko,

Just outstanding!! Thank you!

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Tommy R » 11 Dec 2018 20:18

Great update as usual!
On the subject on uniforms and especially boots; are there any numbers or more information on the Laplander boots?
How many was issued and how were they issued, to specific units or spread out randomly?
I guess they were made by different local manufacturers and then probably sent to some central warehouse for redistribution, or were they issued to troops locally?

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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by Seppo Koivisto » 12 Dec 2018 18:17

Some time ago Varusteleka had these lapp boots for sale, they are said to be Finnish army issue.
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Re: Jaeger Platoon, Finnish Army 1918 - 1945 Website updated

Post by JTV » 04 Sep 2019 05:10

The website has been updated again. This time I added a new page about Navy uniforms, it can be found here:
https://www.jaegerplatoon.net/UNIFORMS6.htm

In addition there are numerous updates in various pages of the website. Some of the pages on the website still represent the level of information that I had maybe decade ago, so those pages will go through a major update in which I basically intent to rewrite them in large extent. Another thing that I started with this update is adding more period photos to the website.

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