Alex Yeliseenko wrote:Sorry .... my bad English......
Does anyone have more info on this? Until now I've been under the impression that the only Finnish armored losses of the Winter War were suffered during the battle of Honkaniemi. BTW, I don't think the Renault tanks can be counted as armored losses because they were used solely as dug-in bunkers.
My information - Honkaniemi - 3 Vickers 6tE - damaged
- 3 Vickers 6tE captured (112 armor batalion 35 light armor brigade Red Army)
Soviet losses Honkaniemi - 2 damaged T-26 (Are restored in some days)
sours - Kolomiets M. Tanks in Winter War 2001 #3 p.62-64
29 feb 1940 - finnish attack Pero station area
2 Vickers 6tE - 4 armor company version russian 20 brigade heavy tanks (tank T-28). Result of fight - Vickers 6tE - destroyed.
sours - Kolomiets M. Tanks in Winter War 2001 #3 p.64
16 feb mobile Group of the colonel V.I.Baranov captured 8 Renault FT (Kjamerja station). Tanks were on railway platforms. Group Baranov destroyed 12 antitank gun Bofors and 16 mashine guns. Russian losses - 2 BT 5\7 destroyed and 6 damaged(Are restored in some days).
sours - Pavlov M. Zheltov I. Pavlov I. BT tanks. Moscow 2001 years.
Best regards from Ice Siberia!
Finnish tank losses for Honkaniemi can be counted as either five or six Vickers 6-ton tanks. Five of these tanks were left to battlefield. The Finns succeeded salvaging the sixth damaged tank from the battlefield, but it was never repaired. According Finnish sources four Soviet tanks were knocked out in Honkaniemi battle.
Few days after Honkaniemi one more Vickers 6 tanks were lost in battle against several T-26 and T-28, which had broken through Finnish lines - it succeeded knocking out two T-26 before T-28 destoyed it. Few days before ending of Winter War one Finnish Vickers 6 ton tank got stuck to some rocks and as finding towing vehicle proved impossible its tank crew has no other chance than demolishing their own vehicle.
The eight Renault FT-17 were intended to be dug into Mannerheim-line as bunker replacements, but what I remember they were waiting to be unloading in nearby train station (Säiniö?) when the Soviets succeeded achieving breakthrough in Summa sector at mid-February 1940. Another batch of these tanks were taken to Taipale peninsula and dug in as replacement bunkers down there. As mentioned Finnish military never used them in combat as tanks during Winter War as they were considered obsolete. Finnish losses for Winter War included also few captured Komsomolets A-20.
BTW: I have lately been gathering information about Finnish losses of T-26 tanks during Continuation War (from war diaries of tank units, various report, documents of armour repair shop etc), but the information is yet unprocessed.
The total number of 37-mm Bofors at-guns (37 PstK/36) lost in battle during Winter War was 60. This was for the large part because Finnish troops lacked antitank-rifles, so antitank-guns had to brougth to immediate front-line, which made them rather vulnerable.
Jarkko
The particular tank wasn't KV-1E m 1940, but KV-1 m 1942 with cast turret. It seems that the projectile hit first to angle of front hull armour and bounced up from there, then it took off part of the additional front armour plate and hit to front turret, from where it bounced off. When it comes to other other mark of hit in other side of the turret it is much more difficult what did that - part of the asme projectile broken off, piece from front armour or second projectile?
