You will see that I was not discussing the meaning of the term "Holocaust", or what it referred to.
I was answering this statement by Sergei Romanov:
That statement alleges that there was a single moment when deportation was replaced by extermination, and that that moment was situated in 1941. My answer refuted that, in that it showed that non-exterminatory deportation of German and Slovak Jews continued well into 1942.The moment Endlösung turned from deportation to extermination some time in 1941
There were exterminatory actions that commenced in 1941, but as I pointed out they were limited in scope and confined to specific areas, in particular the German-occupied parts of the Soviet Union. Thus, there was a period of almost one year when non-exterminatory deportation overlapped with limited exterminatory actions, some of which were not total but limited in scope, and more in the nature of a cull, eg the Sonderbehandlung of 100,000 Jews of Reichsgau Wartheland, one-third of the total Jewish population of that province.
Even the mass-killing of the Jews of the General-Government overseen by the SS and Police Leader of Lublin District, Odilo Globocnik, which began in March 1942, was initially limited in scope and coverage, encompassing only the Jews of the Lublin and Litzmannstadt Districts, and targeting only the Jews deemed incapable of being used for labour, estimated to be 60% of the total Jewish population of those two districts.
The conclusion must be that there was no single point in time at which non-exterminatory deportation was replaced by a comprehensive extermination plan, but that the change occurred gradually, over a period of time and by cumulative stages.
Thus, all the kerfuffle about whether the mass-killing of Soviet Jews was or was not part of an event called "The Holocaust" is really beside the point.
Finally, it should be pointed out that even the mass-killing of Soviet Jews did not begin at a single point in time, but was something that grew by stages, presumably in response to local conditions. The initial orders for Sonderbehandlung of targeted population groups on Soviet territory issued by Heydrich immediately after the German invasion on 22 June 1941 did not include all Jews, but only those in State and Party positions, ie those who were an integral part of the Soviet system of government. Quite soon the killing actions were extended to all Jewish men of military age, and finally, from August, began to include Jewish women and children, wiping out whole communities.
Even so, by the end of 1941 the majority of Jews in German-occupied Soviet territory were still alive, and were only exterminated in the "second wave" of 1942, and some even survived until 1943, when the German retreat began. The letter from Stahlecker to Lohse of 6 August 1941 shows that the original German plan for dealing with the majority of the Soviet Jews was to confine them in isolated rural camps where they would be used for labour in such areas as forestry, pending their expulsion across the Urals after the final German victory.
This is what Stahlecker wrote:
In addition, the report of Einsatzgruppe C of 17 September 1941 shows that there was some disagreement with the change to a policy of mass-killing of the Jewish population. In that report, the commander of EG-C, Dr Dr Rasch, complained that the real goal of destroying the "Communist apparatus" was in danger of being replaced by the easier goal of eliminating the Jewish population, which he said would not achieve the destruction of the Communist system since experience had shown that Jews were not the sole "bearers of Bolshevism", but all Soviet nationalities could have that function.By all possible means, it must be attempted to limit the fertility of Jews as quickly as possible. Sterilization, apart from other arguments, is practically impossible, so in order to reach the goal, the only measure that remains is physical separation of sexes from each other.
Within the larger territory of Ostland, Jewish reservations can be established according to need. The prior occupants of the area and those who are planned to settle there can be pumped into other locations without any difficulty. In the Jewish reservations Jewish men and women must be separated. The boys will remain with their mothers until sexual maturity. The Jews on the reservations can immediately be set to useful labor, as for example construction of their own housing, farm labor, forest work, highway-building. The Jews can be sent as closed teams, as much as the numbers of workmen allow, to do street work outside the reservation. Should it happen that a wholesale clearing of the European Jews should not yet by this time be on the way, then at a later time we could establish in the reservations handcraft and industrial enterprises and thus create new labor possibilities for them. The Jews are to be provided only as much in the way of housing and supplies as is absolutely necessary to maintain their labor. The Jews themselves shall construct simple wooden barracks. The produce of the reservation itself should be enough to supply the food needs.
The fencing off of the reservation should not be any problem. The Jews must be forbidden, at the threat of death, to leave the reservation. The prohibition for the Jews to leave the place can be enforced by relatively small auxiliary police units.
Insofar as is helpful, one could make exceptions to the forced residence in the Jewish reservation, according to the specialties of the Jews, as for example for doctors and craftsmen, who are still urgently needed outside of the reservation. These Jews, as far as it is possible, should be kept near their workplace in a closed camp, separated by sexes. The identification mark, as anticipated in the project, one that I approve of completely, could
be quickly carried out with this small leftover number of Jews.
I want however to note that the commander of the North Army rear has informed the secret field police, by the order of 7/24/41, that the Jews must identify themselves with a yellow six pointed star on the right side of their chest. The project, however, foresees identification with a Star of David on the left side of the chest and on the middle of the back.
It is self-evident that the Jews in reservations also must be externally identifiable. In closing, let me sum up by saying that the Jewish question shall be solved by:
1. A complete and immediate 100% clearing of the Jews from the Ost territory.
2. Preventing the Jews from increasing their numbers.
3. Using the Jews to the fullest as a work force.
4. A considerable facilitation (wesentliche Erleichterung) for the later collective transport to a reservation outside Europe.