75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

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75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Aug 2020 07:10

Good morning,

it makes no sense to set off former war crimes, but the sixth of August 1945, exactly 75 years ago, is certainly a day of remembrance.

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bo ... d_Nagasaki

Countdown to a new age: Hiroshima
Link to Arte: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/054197-00 ... hiroshima/

The Bomb
Link to Arte: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/079408-000-A/the-bomb/

The story of Oppenheimer's infamous quote
Link: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/manhatt ... ppenheimer


Thanks for the attention.

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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by sekudlyda » 06 Aug 2020 15:06

Also worth remembering is how much more catastrophic events in 1945 would have been if Hitler and Nazi Germany had created the atomic bomb first.

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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Aug 2020 15:49

This is about the Bomb on Hiroshima.

A war crime, exterminating tens of thousands of innocent civilians within a minute.
And has nothing to do with the annihilation/holocaust in Europe.

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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by Richard Anderson » 06 Aug 2020 16:10

Hans1906 wrote:
06 Aug 2020 15:49
This is about the Bomb on Hiroshima.

A war crime, exterminating tens of thousands of innocent civilians within a minute.
And has nothing to do with the annihilation/holocaust in Europe.

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It was not a "war crime". Why are you trolling to start a flamewar?
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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Aug 2020 17:41

Throwing the "Bomb" on inncent people was and is the the maximum mass murder against civilians.
Never before, or later did something like this happen, are we okay with this?

Just accept the facts, there is no excuse for all this, period.

Never in the history of mankind so many people were murdered within a few minutes, civilians, innocent ordinary people.

There is no excuse, throwing the two bombs on Japan was calculated mass murder, for a secure later victory.

It is not my standing point, to judge about all this, all this is history...

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No flamewar at all, just remembering the day in history.

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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by OpanaPointer » 06 Aug 2020 17:53

Hans1906 wrote:
06 Aug 2020 15:49
This is about the Bomb on Hiroshima.

A war crime, exterminating tens of thousands of innocent civilians within a minute.
And has nothing to do with the annihilation/holocaust in Europe.

Hans1906
The Japanese War Minister, Gen. Anami Korechika, had declared that all adults were hence forth to be in the military. They were to arm themselves in case of an invasion and die trying to kill the invaders. The target cities were the civil and military capitals of their prefects. One bomb went off almost directly over 8,000 troops lined up for morning inspection.

And, under "karma's a bitch": The special torpedoes used in the pre-war raid on Pearl Harbor were made at the Nagasaki Naval Arsenal.

Oppenheimer and Gen. Groves visited the Trinity Site ground zero the day after the bomb was tested. People in that party picked up pieces of fused sand, "Trinitite", and took them home for the kids to see. Nobody understood much about "fallout" then.
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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by OpanaPointer » 06 Aug 2020 17:54

Hans1906 wrote:
06 Aug 2020 17:41
Throwing the "Bomb" on inncent people was and is the the maximum mass murder against civilians.
Never before, or later did something like this happen, are we okay with this?

Just accept the facts, there is no excuse for all this, period.

Never in the history of mankind so many people were murdered within a few minutes, civilians, innocent ordinary people.

There is no excuse, throwing the two bombs on Japan was calculated mass murder, for a secure later victory.

It is not my standing point, to judge about all this, all this is history...

Hans1906

No flamewar at all, just remembering the day in history.
You need to get a better grasp of the whole war, not just the one issue.
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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by Hans1906 » 06 Aug 2020 18:02

My intention was to remember this date, nothing more.

Whoever is of a different opinion, please let it be known...

And of course the dropping of both bombs was a calculated mass murder of civilians, who still doubts this today, cannot be helped.

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P.S. Mass murder, not the newest topic, Segregation, the mass murder of american natives, extermimation of whole parts
of the society, not the very newest topic.

So, who is innocent, throw the first stone...

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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by OpanaPointer » 06 Aug 2020 18:26

Hans1906 wrote:
06 Aug 2020 18:02
My intention was to remember this date, nothing more.

Whoever is of a different opinion, please let it be known...

And of course the dropping of both bombs was a calculated mass murder of civilians, who still doubts this today, cannot be helped.

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Disingenuous of you.
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Re: 75 years ago: Hiroshima - August 6th, 1945

Post by David Thompson » 06 Aug 2020 19:03

We already have open threads on this event, and here the anniversary is a pretext for notional posts, so the thread is locked.

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