The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem-- A role in the Holocaust?

[Skyderick]

Never-before-seen Photos of Palestinian Mufti With Hitler Ties Visiting Nazi Germany
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.795563

I found this booklet yesterday at my aunt's house. I haven't read it yet. Should anyone be interested in the contents, please let me know.

[michael mills]

Why should we be interested in obvious right-wing Zionist anti-Arab propaganda?

The forces of darkness against the flicker of light within free men? That is ancient apocalyptic Judaism, straight out of the so-called "War Scroll", one of the Dead Sea scrolls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_th ... f_Darkness

What we are interested in in this forum is impartial history, not some crazy right-wing Zionist interpretation of it.

[Skyderick]

Greeting telegram found in the archives

[Skyderick]

A letter from the Mufti to Hitler (Israeli National Archives):

[michael mills]

So what.

The Mufti did not want Germany to allow Jews to go to Palestine in exchange for Germans being held there.

Quite understandable. Every additional Jew entering Palestine represented a threat to the Arab hold on that country. Obviously the Mufti, as leader of the Arabs of Palestine, wanted to prevent Jews going there.

If anything, the Mufti's stance represents a conflict between him and the German Government, since the latter had no problem with Jews being allowed to go to Palestine if there was a benefit for Germany to be gained thereby, namely the release of Germans held in that country.

I think we are getting a bit weary of this barrage of propaganda about ostensible Palestinian Arab collaboration with Germany.

[Linkagain]

https://gellerreport.com/2013/10/finall ... azis.html/

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi Guys,

Looking through this thread, I can't find any evidence that the grand Mufti had any role in the so-called "Holocaust". He was undoubtedly militantly anti-Jewish, but he had no discernible role in formulating Nazi policy, however much he might have approved of it.

This looks like another thread with a declamatory subject headline that should have a "?" attached to it.

Cheers,

Sid.

[Sheldrake]

Although the Second World War edned over 75 years ago, the struggle of Palestine has not.

The context is missing from this discussion.

The Palestine uprising 1936 --1939 was against widespread Jewish immigration and land purchases to establish a Jewish Homeland in Palestine without the consent of the local population. The jewish population of Palestine grew from C 60k in 1918 to over 300k in 1936. This was not a peaceful process and arab and jewish gangs clashed. The murder of two jews and then two arabs in reprisal was the trigger. The Grand Mufti encouraged the uprising which started with a general strike

The British deployed two divisions 7th and 8th Infantry. In 1938-39 they were commanded respectively by Richard O'Connor and Bernard Montgomery.

Despite the intervention of up to 50,000 British troops and 15,000 Haganah men, the uprising continued for over three years. By the time it concluded in September 1939, more than 5,000 Arabs, over 300 Jews, and 262 Britons had been killed and at least 15,000 Arabs were wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%8 ... _Palestine

The uprising has been seen as unsuccessful as it did not lead to an independent arab run Palestine. However, the rreason it ended in 1939 was that the British capitulated on one of the major Palestinian demands and stopped any further Jewish immigration for the duration of the war.

On the basis that "my enemy's enemy is my friend", both the Grand Mufti and the zionist Irgun and Stern gangs attacked the British, including the Zionist assassination of Lord Moyne, making these groups co-belligerents of the Axis.

[michael mills]

I have had a quick look at the "Geller report" linked by Linkagain yesterday.

It is obviously an extremist islamophobic propaganda sheet published by a private person called Pamela Geller. I doubt that it has any validity as a historical source.

[Linkagain]

Mufti In Iraq
https://www.jewishrefugees.org.uk/2021/ ... -1941.html

[steve248]

The Mufti has nine MI 5 "name files" at UK National Archives, dated 1926-1953: ref. KV 2/2084 to KV 2/2092.

They can be freely downloaded if you "sign in" - just an email address is needed to gain free access.

[SloveneLiberal]

Grand Mufti Al Huseini was important as an ally of the Third Reich in the way that he argued strongly for the political interpretation of islamism in a way that it is in its core antisemitic and he adapted this old islamic antisemitism with modern Nazi-European conspiracy theories about Jews. His propaganda was spread with German help between muslims in Africa, Middle east, Soviet Union and Balkans, not without success.

Grand mufti was on one hand an important Nazi propagandist specially between muslims and that kind of incitement to violence is today considered as war crime. However on another hand he had no role in Nazi decision making about the Holocaust.

More here:


https://www.jstor.org/stable/43922000?r ... b_contents

[SloveneLiberal]

The most direct link bewteen Grand mufti and holocaust are his letters to European leaders in which he was advocating that Jews should be sent to Poland where he knew Nazis have concentration death camps. He admitted this also in his memories.

When it was already more or less clear that Germany will lose the war some European countries which were othervise on axis side decided to demonstrate some help to the Jews. Thus, for example, Bulgarian plans to permit some 4,000 Jewish children and 500 adult companions to immigrate to Palestine provoked a letter from the mufti to the Bulgarian foreign minister, pleading for the operation to be stopped. In the letter, dated May 6, 1943, Husseini invoked a “Jewish danger for the whole world and especially for the countries where Jews live.” “If I may be permitted,” the mufti continued,

I would like to call your attention to the fact that it would be very appropriate and more advantageous to prevent the Jews from emigrating from your country and instead to send them where they will be placed under strict control: e.g. to Poland. Thus one can avoid the danger they represent and do a good deed vis-à-vis the Arab peoples that will be appreciated.

One week later, the mufti sent additional “protest letters” to both the Italian and German Foreign Ministries, appealing for them to intervene in the matter. The German Foreign Ministry promptly sent off a cable to the German ambassador in Sofia stressing “the common German-Arab interest in preventing the rescue operation.” Indeed, according to the post-War recollections of a Foreign Ministry official, “The Mufti turned up all over the place making protests: in the Minister’s office, in the waiting room of the Deputy Minister and in other sections: for example, Interior, the Press Office, the Broadcast service, and also the ss.” “The Mufti was a sworn enemy of the Jews,” the official concluded, “and he made no secret of the fact that he would have preferred to see them all killed.”


In late June, both the Romanian and Hungarian Foreign Ministers would be recipients of similar appeals from the mufti. The Romanian government had been planning to allow some 75,000 to 80,000 Jews to immigrate to the Middle East, and Hungary — which had become a refuge for Jews escaping persecution elsewhere in Europe — was reportedly preparing to allow some 900 Jewish children and their parents to immigrate as well. The mufti repeated his counsel that the Jews should be sent rather to Poland, where they could be kept under “active surveillance.” “It is especially monstrous,”

https://www.hoover.org/research/mufti-and-holocaust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WghqmG4sn_A

[Linkagain]

https://www.jewishrefugees.org.uk/2021/ ... mufti.html

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi SloveneLiberal,

Why would the Grand Mufti find it in any way acceptable that more Jews should be sent to Palestine?

It is not as if (1) there was nowhere else in the world or (2) the Zionists among them had no designs on the "Land of Israel"/Palestine.

Cheers,

Sid