azerbaijnis soliders murdered by AK

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Post by michalst » 06 Mar 2007 21:58

I found out that this "Fritsch Kaserne" was in German hands on the 4. august 1944 (source "Bitwa o Warszawe '44" by K.Komorowski page 397-398). I'm pretty sure that this information is correct because Komorowski seems to have copied Polish documents ("Zalacznik do meldunku sytuacyjnego komendanta okregu Warszawa AK z 4 VIII 1944 r.").
Zagorski, Waclaw was commander of the "Chrobry II" AK battalion which fought in the center of the city. It is possible that the same battalion tried to take these buildings at Koszykowa street of the 1. of august 1944 and murdered those Azeris, or Zagorski may have heard about it from somebody since he wasn't stationed far away.

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Post by paratatruc » 07 Mar 2007 16:37

Hi Allen,
"The cruel hunters" by Maclean

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Post by michalst » 26 Mar 2007 17:30

Allen Milcic:
Some weeks ago you wrote that the Azeri 818 batallion was part of the 17th division (Heer) which also consisted of 2 Turkestani battalions, a Russian cavalry detachment, a Volksdeutsche police battalion from Lublin and 6 German construction battalions. Do you the name/nr of those other units?

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 26 Mar 2007 18:36

Quite unlikely...

a) 17.ID was in the Warka-Radom area in August/September 1944
b) had none of the mentioned troops in its OoB
c)was never close to Warsaw in the particular timeframe

A detailed OoB in polish language you may find here:

http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niem ... taniu1.htm

most of the involved units were police-units & Heerestruppen ,,,

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Post by michalst » 26 Mar 2007 18:47

Which troops did the 17th division have in august/september 1944? I know that the 818 Azeri batallion and one or two turkmeni batallions where stationed Granice-Pulawy in july 1944, maybe they where subordinated to the 17th division?

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Post by Allen Milcic » 26 Mar 2007 20:19

michalst wrote:Allen Milcic:
Some weeks ago you wrote that the Azeri 818 batallion was part of the 17th division (Heer) which also consisted of 2 Turkestani battalions, a Russian cavalry detachment, a Volksdeutsche police battalion from Lublin and 6 German construction battalions. Do you the name/nr of those other units?
Hi michalst:

Sorry, but the book does not identify the unit names/numbers.

Allen/

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Re: azerbaijnis soliders murdered by AK

Post by Orlov » 25 Mar 2023 22:50

The only possible places:
- Directorate of the Criminal Police of the City of Warsaw (Polnische Kripo) in the building at Al. Ujazdowskie (Siegesstraße) 9a corner Koszykowa St.
- telephone center (small PAST) - Pius XI St. 19 (now ul. Piekna 19) - near Koszykowa
- or maybe the KdS Warschau guest house (probably ul. 6 August) - 20 soldiers of "Kaukasier-Kompanie" SS-Oberscharführer Walter Kehrer died there - near Koszykowa St.

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Post by steve248 » 28 Mar 2023 09:25

Orlov, I agree the Azeris in Warsaw were probably from the Kaukasier Kompanie (their detachments at Lublin and Radom were now called the "Kosaken-Kompanie).
A slip of the keyboard but Kehrer himself was not killed in Warsaw.

I don't suppose anyone has the names of the Azeri victims?

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Re: azerbaijnis soliders murdered by AK

Post by Orlov » 18 Apr 2023 16:42

Hi Steve248,
A problematic issue. I tried to determine the location of Kehrer's Caucasian Company in Warsaw (300 metres from Al. Szucha - only August 6 Street (ulica 6 Sierpnia) fell out in the undamaged part of the former (prewar) building of the Ministry of Military Affairs - I have no confirmation this fact even from Varsavianists) and where they could be encircled and after surrender, murdered. But Warsaw Uprising's specialists had not heard of such a murder - of course during uprising were murders of SS soldiers, policemen from Orpo and Ukrainians, but they were counted in individual cases (special order of "Monter" - commander of Warsaw's forces of AK) - there was no mass shooting of German prisoners of war anywhere (even from these three groups listed).
The greatest casualties among German POW's during Warsaw Uprising took place after the bombing of the "Urania" cinema (ul. Hoza 29) by Klußmann's Schwarm.

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