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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by ansata1976 » 28 Jul 2017, 21:07

I am interested in more information about the defendants (date and place of birth) and their fate (release date, execution date + place of execution):

Trial 15-25.03.1946 in Aurich (Germany)
Wilhelm Jung death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Georg Schumacher death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Neitz Imprisonment for life (sentence confirmed 08.04.1946)

Trial 25.03.1946 – 06.04.1946 in Aurich (Germany)
Robert Hölzer death by shooting (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)
Walter Weigel death by shooting (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)
Wilhelm Ossenbach 15 years imprisonment (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 29 Jul 2017, 09:34

ansata1976 wrote:I am interested in more information about the defendants (date and place of birth) and their fate (release date, execution date + place of execution):

Trial 15-25.03.1946 in Aurich (Germany)
Wilhelm Jung death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Georg Schumacher death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Neitz Imprisonment for life (sentence confirmed 08.04.1946)

Trial 25.03.1946 – 06.04.1946 in Aurich (Germany)
Robert Hölzer death by shooting (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)
Walter Weigel death by shooting (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)
Wilhelm Ossenbach 15 years imprisonment (sentence confirmed 02.05.1946)


hi Ansata :wink:

i have only dates when death sentences carried out:

Wilhelm Jung & Johann Schumacher:
both shot on the 15.04.1946

Robert Holzer & Walter Weigel:
both shot on the 11.05.1946

source: Bibliothéque et Archives Canada

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by ansata1976 » 24 Sep 2017, 15:59

Robert Hölzer 10.11.1909 in Barmen

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Post by steve248 » 01 Oct 2017, 10:11

I think these were Canadian Military Courts at Aurich.
Should "Neitz" be "Neitze"?

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Post by seaburn » 19 Apr 2018, 22:00

Neitz was granted remission on his sentence by the Canadian government in 1954 and his date of release was calculated to be early 1955. Reference FO.1024/56 British National Archives.

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Post by Puck » 20 Apr 2018, 01:29

ansata1976 wrote:I am interested in more information about the defendants (date and place of birth) and their fate (release date, execution date + place of execution):

Trial 15-25.03.1946 in Aurich (Germany)
Wilhelm Jung death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Georg Schumacher death by shooting (sentence confirmed 11.04.1946)
Johann Neitz Imprisonment for life (sentence confirmed 08.04.1946)
This are two cases:

Trial 15.-25.03.1946 in Aurich (execution of canadian airman in Oberweier 29.07.1944)
Wilhelm Jung (born 1893 in Oberweier, bricklayer) NSDAP-Ortsgruppenleiter (since 1938) and mayor of Oberweier (since 1932)
- gave order to execute canadian airman
Johann Georg Schumacher (born 05.1904) 404.Landesschützenbataillon (guarded french POW)
- executed canadian airman

Trial 15.-20.03.1946 in Aurich (attempted murder of an canadian airman in Vosslap/Wilhelmshaven 16.10.1944)
Johann Neitz Marine-Hauptgefreiter
- 1949 lifetime sentence reduced to 21 years

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Post by seaburn » 22 Apr 2018, 12:34

Ron wrote:Hi
Can anybody tell me the release dates and date of deaths of kz Neuengamme guards
Edgar Klemmt, Ernst Wendefeuer and Longin Bladowski ? Also would like photo or source of where to get photo of Longin Bladowski

Thank you Ron
Release dates for Edgar Klemmt and Erich Oehmke from Werl prison (Source: British National Archives FO1024/56)
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Post by Ron » 23 Apr 2018, 22:50

Thank you Seaburn
Warm regards Ron

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Post by Researcher » 27 Jul 2018, 13:59

I'm looking for info regarding the following men. They were supposed to be tried by British Courts in Germany but I cannot find their sentences.

Hugo GRÜNER and Rudolf BIRLIN (The Rheinweller Case) Killing of 4 Allied airmen at Schliengen in Oct 1944 (Trial scheduled for 20 Feb 1947)
Ernst Johann PINGEL *1907 (KZ Banterweg) Others named on for trial list were sentenced in Hamburg 06.03.1947 (he was also wanted by the French)
Friedrich Wilhelm PFEIFFER *1909 (The Altenau Case) Others including FRICKE were sent. in Hamburg 25.09.1947 (he was also wanted by Americans)
Friedrich Karl HORN *1896 (Konig killings) Trial WO 235/457 Hamburg 28.07.1947
Joseph GOEDDE *1892 To be put on trial 31.03.1947
Karl SPAETH *1891 (Bayreuth Case) To be put on trial late 1947

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Post by steve248 » 27 Jul 2018, 16:45

Karl Spaeth - trial in WO 235/350 (July 1947-1948); investigation file WO 309/225

Rudolf Birlin & Hugo Grüner - trial in WO 235/464 (Jun 1947-Jan 1948, The Schliengen Case).

Otto Fricke & Christoph Hartwig - trial in WO 235/406 (July-Nov 1947, The Altenau Case); investigation files WO 309/251 and WO 309/747

All files open at UK National Archives.

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Post by Researcher » 27 Jul 2018, 18:43

Hi Steve248

Thanks for the reply - With the exception of Rudolf Birlin & Hugo Grüner the men named do not appear on the UK National Archives website. I can only think that for some reason they were pulled from the actual trials.

The trial of Rudolf Birlin & Hugo Grüner was scheduled to take place at Recklinghausen opening on 20 Feb 1947. The Archives website has it that the trial took place in Hamburg. I would still like to know if any of these men were sentenced.

BTW Kew is a hell of a treck for us Sherwood Foresters

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Post by steve248 » 27 Jul 2018, 21:36

Unfortunately we are moving house and most of the stuff about British trials went off to the storage unit only yesterday...
I prefer my own Indices to the trials rather than Kew's which are not always accurate.
I don't think these men were Sipo/SD so I will not have much if anything about them.
I do not go to Kew as often as I did and simply digitize these days, fo the days ahead when I will not be able to go...

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Puck » 27 Jul 2018, 21:47

Concerning Grüning and Birling see also https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/o ... mit=suchen

Grüner escaped from camp Recklinghausen in february 1947 (and probably fled to Argentinia..)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 28 Jul 2018, 08:50

Hugo Gruner was sentenced to death by a French Military Court in Strasbourg (Alsace Trial)
jugement annulled in appeal

based on Kathryn Hassel 's Book , Rudolf Birlin was acquitted. and Karl Spaeth sentenced to 84 months (7 years).
Pfeiffer and Horn were not listed.


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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 28 Jul 2018, 08:54

Puck wrote:
27 Jul 2018, 21:47
Concerning Grüning and Birling see also https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/o ... mit=suchen

Grüner escaped from camp Recklinghausen in february 1947 (and probably fled to Argentinia..)

Regards Puck


also , Reimer and Bohny were not listed in this same book.

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