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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Researcher » 31 Jul 2018, 19:09

Hi danyb
Steve248 is correct with the UK Archive file numbers on Karl Spaeth - (trial in WO 235/350 (July 1947-1948); investigation file WO 309/225)
You wrote that Spaeth was sentenced to 7 years imprisonment. Do you know Where was the trial and what was the sentence date?
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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 01 Aug 2018, 08:06

i have this info:

ID trial: 1663
WO.235/350 , 725
place of trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 13.08.1947
défendant: 1

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 02 Aug 2018, 07:39

for Rudolf Birlin and Hugo Grüner:

ID trial: 1751
WO.235/464 , 762
place of trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 26.05.1948 - 27.05.1948
defendants: 2

Rudolf Birlin: Acquittal (ID trial: 1751)
Hugo Grüner: sentence unknown (ID trial: 1751)

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 02 Aug 2018, 08:03

for Johann Pingel:

Johann Ernst Franz Pingel: sentence unknown (ID trial: 119)

ID trial: 119
WO.235/296-300
place of Trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 04.02.1947 - 06.03.1947
defendants: 9

Josef Goedde was not listed.

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Researcher » 02 Aug 2018, 17:48

Thanks all, and If anyone is interested . .

Ernst Johann PINGEL was born 13.05.1907 in Hamburg (KZ Banterweg Case)
Karl SPAETH was born 28.01.1891 (Bayreuth Case)
Friedrich Wilhelm PFEIFFER was born 17.10.1909 (Altenau Case)
Joseph GOEDDE was born 20.02.1892

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 03 Aug 2018, 09:20

himself , i'm looking for informations on this trial:

ID trial: 1768
WO.235/504 , 734
place of trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 04.02.1948 - 06.02.1948
defendants: 1

Victor (Viktor) Harmischfeger: death sentence (ID trial: 1768)

what is his crime ??
his fate ??

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Puck » 03 Aug 2018, 11:45

Hi Dany,

correct name is Dr. Victor Harnischfeger

Harnischfeger was tried together with KK Dr. Josef Ochs (also Stapo Düsseldorf) in 1947 by a britisch court in Hamburg and both aquitted.

The death sentence from his 2nd trial in 1948 (same case: execution of forced workers in 1945.04 in Ratingen - but now found individually guilty for execution of 2 victims) was changed to life sentence, he was in 1952 released and in 1954 again in police.


-> see http://www.stadt-ratingen.de/bilder/41/ ... 2_2015.pdf

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 03 Aug 2018, 13:24

Puck wrote:
03 Aug 2018, 11:45
Hi Dany,

correct name is Dr. Victor Harnischfeger

Harnischfeger was tried together with KK Dr. Josef Ochs (also Stapo Düsseldorf) in 1947 by a britisch court in Hamburg and both aquitted.

The death sentence from his 2nd trial in 1948 (same case: execution of forced workers in 1945.04 in Ratingen - but now found individually guilty for execution of 2 victims) was changed to life sentence, he was in 1952 released and in 1954 again in police.


-> see http://www.stadt-ratingen.de/bilder/41/ ... 2_2015.pdf

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Thank You very Much Puck :wink:

first trial in British Archives:

ID trial: 1718
WO.235/390 , 734 (Düsseldorf Gestapo I Case)
place of trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 19.11.1947 - 02.12.1947
defendants: 2

Victor Harnischfeger: acquittal (ID trial: 1718)
Dr Josef Ochs: acquittal (ID trial: 1718)

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 03 Aug 2018, 13:34

danyb wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 08:03
for Johann Pingel:

Johann Ernst Franz Pingel: sentence unknown (ID trial: 119)

ID trial: 119
WO.235/296-300
place of Trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 04.02.1947 - 06.03.1947
defendants: 9
.

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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defendants in Banterweg Case:

-Gottfried Drossen: 15 years
-Rudolf Guenther: 15 years
-Ernst Hoffmann: 4 years
-Hans Horstmann: 15 years
-Gustav Jepsen: death sentence
-Ernst Pingel: unknown
-Karl Raddatz: unknown
-Heinrich Suerig: 18 months
-Otto Thuemmel: 5 years

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Puck » 03 Aug 2018, 20:09

danyb wrote:
03 Aug 2018, 13:24
first trial in British Archives:

ID trial: 1718
WO.235/390 , 734 (Düsseldorf Gestapo I Case)
place of trial: Hamburg
date of trial: 19.11.1947 - 02.12.1947
defendants: 2

Victor Harnischfeger: acquittal (ID trial: 1718)
Dr Josef Ochs: acquittal (ID trial: 1718)
Thank you Dany, is was still searching the dates of this trial :thumbsup:

Banterweg-case is concerning Außenlager Wilhelmshaven (KZ Neuengamme), located at Alter Banter Weg in Wilhelmshaven
Gottfried Drossen - civilian, Kriegsmarinewerft Wilhelmshaven
Rudolf Günther - SS-Unterscharführer, Lagerleiter in 11.1944
Ernst Hoffmann - Verwaltungsführer Außenlager Wilhelmshaven, SS-??
Hans Horstmann - civilian, Kriegsmarinewerft Wilhelmshaven
Gustav Jepsen - SS-Unterscharführer, Rapportführer, from Denmark, executed 26.06.1947 in Hameln
(Jepsen was also sentenced to lifetime prison on 23.08.1946 by a britisch court in Lüneburg)
see --> http://www.offenes-archiv.de/de/medium-ansicht?id=3874
Heinrich Sührig - Kapo
Otto Thümmel - Hauptmann (SS-Hauptsturmführer) - Lagerleiter 09.1944..11.1944
see --> http://media.offenes-archiv.de/ss3_2_bio_1923.pdf

Following this document https://www.legal-tools.org/doc/38e0e3/pdf/ Ernst Pingel and Karl Raddatz were probably not tried

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by steve248 » 05 Aug 2018, 13:40

Neither Pingel nor Karl Raddatz were tried by British war crimes courts.
Pingel was initially charged in the Banterweg case but he was dropped as a defendant before the trial began.

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Researcher » 09 Aug 2018, 18:56

Help please
I'm looking for the date and sentences of the 'Bochum No 4' trial ( WO 235/130 ) The 4 defendants were:
Friedrich Werner
August Schluetter
Karl Gerk
Friedrich Spanel

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 10 Aug 2018, 09:32

ID trial: 1601
WO.235/130 , 673
place of trial: Bochum
dates of trial: 15.07.1946 - 17.07.1946
defendants: 4

Karl Gerk: 3 years (ID trial.1601)
Friedrich Spanel: 2 years (ID trial.1601)
August Schluette: 3 years (ID.trial.1601)
Friedrich Werner: 3 years (ID trial.1601)

source: "Kriegsverbrechen vor Gericht" (Kathrin Hassel)

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by Researcher » 10 Aug 2018, 20:22

Thanks danyb

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Re: sentences by britisch courts

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Post by danyb » 12 Aug 2018, 08:43

i'm looking for additionals infos on this trial:

ID trial: 1651
WO.235/333-334 (Roeschen Case)
place of trial: Duisburg
dates of trial: 10.06.1947 - 16.06.1947
defendants: 2

Wilhelm Schoenstein: 20 years (ID trial: 1651)
Wilhelm Opretzka: 20 years (ID trial: 1651)

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