sentences by british courts

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 31 Jul 2020 17:22

What was the sentence of SS-Obersturmführer Georg Müller (24.07.1909 in Karlsburg, Siebenbürgen)

What was the rank of Willi Friedrich Reinhold Tiege (23.07.1893 in Berlin)

When was SS-Unterscharführer Fritz Feuerlein (05.02.1911 in München) released from prison?

What is the date and place of birth of
SS-Oberscharführer Georg Eberl
SS-Hauptscharführer Hermann Bölck
SS-Oberscharführer Friedrich Wilhelm Engel
SS-Hauptscharführer Werner Paul Hermann Möller
SS-Hauptscharführer Erich Penning
SS-Oberscharführer Herbert Peuker
SS-Oberscharführer Karl Heinz Rönnfeldt (1914)
SS-Hauptscharführer Josef Nikolaus Schneider
SS-Sturmscharführer Ludwig Bieber
SS-Hauptscharführer Alexander Otto Gustav Etling
SS-Oberscharführer Peter Göttling
SS-Oberscharführer Willi Korneffel

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » 01 Aug 2020 11:04

Hello,
Here's a start

Ludwig Bieber born 26.11.1909 in ?
Hermann Bölck born 03.03.1909 in Busdorf
Friedrich Engel born 03.04.1908 in Klagenfurt
Alexander Etling born 05.01.1910 in Mainz
Willi Korneffel Born 21.05.1904 in ?
Erich Penning born 16.10.1910 in Offenbach
Karl Rönnfeldt born 25.03.1914 in ?

You ask "What was the sentence of SS-Obersturmführer Georg Müller (24.07.1909 in Karlsburg, Siebenbürgen)" ?
I do not have him in my dbase. Was he tried by the British?

Best
Researcher

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 01 Aug 2020 12:39

In one of my old sources there was an information that Georg Müller was sentenced in the same trial. Maybe I made a wrong translation or maybe he was only a witness.

Do you know as well the date and place of birth of

SS-Oberscharführer Herbert Peuker
SS-Oberscharführer Peter Göttling
SS-Hauptscharführer Werner Paul Hermann Möller
SS-Oberscharführer Georg Eberl
SS-Hauptscharführer Josef Nikolaus Schneider

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » 01 Aug 2020 14:59

Hi ansata,
Sorry, no more details on these men.
I can tell you the file you require is WO 235/216A.
Maybe steve248 can help?

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 01 Aug 2020 15:07

Thank you

steve248 · Post by **steve248** » 02 Aug 2020 08:47

British Military Court, Hamburg, 6-26 Aug 1946 ("The Trandum Case" - the shooting of six captured British soldiers)
There were 13 defendants:
Herbert Peuker; born 2 Aug 1903, Olau bei Breslau; SS-Oschaf KrimAsst; sentenced to 14 years
Peter Göttling; born 1902, Bamberg; SS-Oschaf KrimAnge; acquitted
Werner Paul Hermann Möller; born 1 March 1907, Kiel; SS-Stuschaf KOS; 14 years
Josef Nikolaus; born 29 Jult 1911, Würzburg; SS-Hschaf; 14 years
Erich Penning; born 16 Oct 1910, Offenbach/Main; SS-Oschaf; Not Guilty
Alexander Otto Gustav Etling; born 5 Jan 1910, Mainz; SS-Hschaf KrimAnge; Not Guilty
Hermann Bolck; born 3 March 1909, Busdorf, Krs Schleswig; SS-Oschaf KrimAnge; 14 years
Siegfried Bahlinger; born 4 Aug 1910, Danzig; SS-Rotf; 14 years
Ludwig Bieber; born 26 Nov 1909, Augsburg; SS-Hschaf KS; Not Guilty
Willy Korneffel; born 21 May 1904, Warchau, Krs Jericho II; SS-Oschaf KrimAnge; Not Guilty
Karl Heinz Rönnefeldt; born 25 March 14, Crivitz/Meckl; SS-Oschaf; 14 years
Otto Baldauf; born 7 Aug 1904, Sulzberg/Vorarlberg; SS-Oschaf; 14 years
Friedrich Wilhelm Engel; born 3 April 1908, Klagenfurt/Austria; SS-Oschaf; 14 years

There was no defendant or witness named Georg Eberl and no one of that name was tried in any British Military Court

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 02 Aug 2020 12:34

Thank you Steve

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 02 Aug 2020 12:37

In my sources Georg Eberl was in the following trial:

Trial 29.11.1945 – 04.12.1945 in Oslo
SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Hans Wilhelm Blomberg (27.09.1906 in Rheine) sentenced to death (executed 10.01.1946 in Oslo)
SS-Obersturmbannführer Hans Keller (29.09.1907 in Chemnitz) sentenced to life hard labour (released 01.05.1948)
SS-Obersturmführer Georg Ludwig Werner Oppel (18.10.1913 in Stuttgart) sentenced to 20 years imprisonment (released 10.12.1947)
SS-Untersturmführer Alfred Friedrich Kreutz (01.06.1913 in Schubin) sentenced to 3 years imprisonment (released 10.12.1947)
SS-Obersturmführer Erwin Lang (12.02.1910 in Altbach) sentenced to life hard labour (released 10.12.1947)
SS-Unterscharführer Rudolf Hermann Theodor Kapp (10.05.1910 in Heiligenbeil) sentenced to 15 years imprisonment
Willi Friedrich Reinhold Tiege (23.07.1893 in Berlin) acquitted
SS-Oberscharführer Georg Eberl(?) sentenced to 15 years imprisonment
SS-Hauptscharführer Friedrich Wilhelm Eisenacher (29.12.1909 in Hengshausen) acquitted
SS-Obersturmführer Georg Müller (24.07.1909 in Karlsburg, Siebenbürgen) KdS Tromsø sentence?
SS-Oberscharführer Schmidt (?) sentence?

steve248 · Post by **steve248** » 03 Aug 2020 09:59

Blimey, a typo in my list - Eberl not Ebert.
Here is the first page of his pre-trial interrogation does not help with his DOB but likely comes from Munich:

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BlackMirror · Post by **BlackMirror** » 05 Sep 2020 16:06

Steve: Do you have more information on Ludwig Bieber from the Trandum case? There is a Polizeioberwachtmeister Ludwig Bieber in my files. He lived in Augsburg in 1938 and was later promoted to Kriminalassistent.
Thank you in advance.

steve248 · Post by **steve248** » 06 Sep 2020 11:43

Looks the same Ludwig Bieber:
26 Nov 1909 born Augsburg, Goldbach/Unterfranken
April 1928 joined Landespolizei in Bavaria
May 39-Dec 40 RevOWM, Schupo Augsburg
Dec 1940 transferred to Gestapo Augsburg as KOA and posted to BdS Oslo, Registratur
March-Apr 1943 BdS Oslo, Abt IV E1, SS-SSchaf KS
??? – May 1945 KS, with KdS Oslo/Ast Vaaler
23 Nov 1945 prisoner statement from Akershus Prison, Oslo
??? arrested by WCIU
6-26 Aug 1946, prosecuted in the “Trandum Case” before a British Military Court in Hamburg and found Not Guilty
home address: Augsburg

danyb · Post by **danyb** » 11 Feb 2021 08:52

hello !

i'm looking for the dates when these men were jailed by British Authorities in West Germany:

-Erwin Ostertag
-Bernhard Ulrich
-Josef Muth

both tried in Gaggenau Case

Thanks in Advance
Best Regards
Danyb

steve248 · Post by **steve248** » 11 Feb 2021 11:19

Tried with Karl Buck and others:
6-10 May 1946, tried by a British Military Court at Wuppertal for being concerned in the killing of six captured men, 2 SAS Regiment, four captured Americans and four French nationals at Rotenfels Sicherheitslager, Gaggenau, on 25 Nov 1944. Sentences given on 10 May 1946.

CR6FJR · Post by **CR6FJR** » 15 Feb 2021 13:33

Karl Finkenrath was executed for murdering two British paratroopers in Heoruvillette. read article: Heoruvillette murders. (After the battle)

ansata1976 · Post by **ansata1976** » 20 Jun 2021 19:19

What is the correct date and place of birth of

SS-Rottenführer Josef Klingler (24.02.1904 in ?) sentenced to death (executed 26.06.1947 in Hameln)
SS-Oberscharführer Richard Emanuel Eichler (?) sentenced to 5 years imprisonment
Kapo Wilhelm Schneider (?) sentenced to 4 years imprisonment

all sentenced in Hamburg

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